To clarify:

(1) The EWS bots are still running.

(2) The mac and mac-wk2 EWS bots are running tests, and passing.

(3) The cr-linux bots are running tests, and failing.

If we're OK with item (3), we can go ahead with cleaning house, and break the 
cr-* EWS bots entirely, while we work on making the mac and mac-wk2 EWS bots 
faster.

Geoff

On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Filip Pizlo <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think everyone is agreeing that we should have a suitable replacement for 
> EWS. 
> 
> But I also want to see us move forward with clean ups. I think such clean ups 
> will bring clarity to what we would want our EWS testing to look like since 
> we'll have fewer configurations to test. 
> 
> I like the approach of switching to manual testing in the short term, and 
> working in parallel on an EWS replacement. 
> 
> Sent from my PDP-11
> 
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Brent Fulgham <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I definitely do not want to see the EWS system go away. But in the short 
>> term , I would be in favor of manual commits and manual testing.
>> 
>> We still have the build bots running tests, so it's not like we lose all 
>> coverage.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Brent
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Garen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I'd also suggest purging the chromium layout tests ASAP so we can enjoy 
>>>> the much-reduced archive sync costs.
>>>> 
>>>> We really need to get the Mac or Win EWS performing tests by default and 
>>>> reliably before doing this. At present, only the chromium-linux EWS bot 
>>>> has been consistently running tests. When Mac/Win tests were turned on 
>>>> recently, it resulted in huge backups on those EWS bots, and eventually 
>>>> having tests disabled.
>>> 
>>> Sorry, I got excited and removed the Chromium test results before I read 
>>> this email.
>>> 
>>> If committers are willing to do their own regression testing and 
>>> committing, we can move forward with cleaning house. (For what it's worth, 
>>> that's how I've always worked.)
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, if we want to depend on the Chromium EWS tester and the Chromium 
>>> commit queue, we have to put cleaning house on hold. We need to keep the 
>>> Chromium/v8 port building, and maintain its test results, until we have 
>>> alternate sources for that stuff. If that's the consensus, I'll restore the 
>>> cr-linux and cr-linux-x86 test results.
>>> 
>>> My preference is to move forward with cleaning house. It has already 
>>> reduced the webkit download size by 1GB. What do other folks think?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Geoff
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