> 18 июня 2020 г., в 9:30 PM, Saam Barati <sbar...@apple.com> написал(а): > > Why are we insisting on doing something on the bots that takes ~10x longer to > run than necessary? I’d rather have that time spent running more tests.
Replying to this point specifically, I wanted to point out that WebKit tests take 2x longer in debug, not 10x longer. JSC tests take 3.6x longer. > Overall, how we’re doing things now feels like a bad allocation of bot > resources. The differences I see between O3 with no-inlining vs O0 is: Last time this was discussed, we talked about -Og, which is specifically designed for the purpose I believe. Where do we stand on understanding and adopting that? - Alexey > - Some race conditions will behave differently. Race conditions are already > non predictable. I don’t think we’re losing anything here. > - O0 vs O3 is a different compiler. We may encounter bugs in O3 we don’t in > O0, and vice versa. In general, we probably care more about O3 compiler bugs > than O0, since we don’t ship O0, but ship a lot of O3. > > (And if we’re going to insist on “I want it to run what I build at my desk”: > I run debug with O3 at my desk, and I can run debug tests in a reasonable > amount of time now.) > > In evaluating what’s the better setup, I think it’s helpful to think about > this from the other side. Let’s imagine we had Debug+O3 as our current setup. > And someone proposed to move it to O0 and make our tests take ~10x longer. I > think that’d be a non-starter. > > - Saam > >> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Simon Fraser <simon.fra...@apple.com> wrote: >> >> I also object to losing good stack traces for crashes on Debug bots. >> >> Also, I don't think Debug bots should build something different from what I >> build at my desk. >> >> Simon >> >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Mark Lam <mark....@apple.com >>> <mailto:mark....@apple.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> We're planning to switch the JSC EWS bot and build.webkit.org >>> <http://build.webkit.org/> Debug build and test bots to building with the >>> following set first: >>> ./Tools/Scripts/set-webkit-configuration --force-opt=O3 >>> >>> This means the Debug builds will be built with optimization level forced to >>> O3. >>> >>> Why are we doing this? >>> 1. So that the JSC EWS will start catching ASSERT failures. >>> 2. JSC stress test Debug bots have been timing out and not running tests at >>> all. Hopefully, this change will fix this issue. >>> 3. Tests will run to completion faster and we’ll catch regressions sooner. >>> >>> The downside: crash stack traces will be like Release build stack traces. >>> But I don’t think we should let this deter us. It’s not like there’s no >>> stack information. And just as we do with debugging Release build test >>> failures, we can always do a Debug build locally to do our debugging. >>> >>> We would like to apply this change to all Debug build and test bots, not >>> just the JSC ones. Does anyone strongly object to this change? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mark >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> webkit-dev mailing list >>> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org <mailto:webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org> >>> https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> webkit-dev mailing list >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org >> https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev > _______________________________________________ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev - Alexey
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