fendres wrote:

>> It's complicated. Are you intent on using Slime for your Common
>> Lisp coding? Taking out Slime and using a decoupled editor
>> helps simplify things in the beginning.
>
> On the one hand it simplifies the process, but on the other hand
> it is also helpful. Working in the sbcl repl is painful.

Not necessarily. Use `rlwrap' to start SBCL, and activate
SB-ACLREPL while we're at it:

  rlwrap sbcl --eval "(require :sb-aclrepl)"

With this you have a good prompt, proper line editing and history.

It helps to have some basic knowledge of Readline's Emacs key
config.


> I installed SBCL via aptitude. The version is: 1.0.29.11.debian.
> I don't know where to geht the CLSQL version number from. I
> installed it two weeks ago via clbuild, so it should be pretty recent.
> The changelog file says, the last change was 2008 though.

The change log is probably stale. Try "git log" for a more
reliable indicator.

The latest release version is, according to the web site,

  clsql-5.1.1.tar.gz (Sat, 15 May 2010 15:25:47, 870 KB)

Give it a try.

Also try some newer SBCL if it still doesn't work.

It's not hard to download the latest SBCL directly from
www.sbcl.org and use it.


> I really wanted to get working on a new project and give lisp web
> development a try, because I thought it would be an easy entry
> (as compared to GUI development) and many people consider it
> superior to php/perl/python.
> So far it seems really hard to dive in. My usual ways of learning an
> API and looking at given code, figuring out such problems don't work.
> Googling errors doesn't work that well either, as the community is
> tiny, and there is no way of getting a software bundle that you know
> is in a coherent state.
> I just hope that - with some help - I can put all the initial
> problems
> behind me.

You're right -- it's not easy to get started with Common Lisp
because so many things are different, and the community is
seriously understaffed.

But we've hardly let anyone walk away from here without having
made a serious effort to help them, and I think the same is true
for the communities of other Lisp projects.

"Don't give up" is the best advice I can give you; it will
definitely pay for itself later.

Oh, and do report back here if you experience any further
problems.

  Leslie

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