As far as convincing you that it's not true that WO clashes with Ajax
and that it doesn't make sense, obviously the Wonder Ajax frameworks
essentially demonstrate the counterexample. It's both possible
(clashless?) and DOES make sense :)
However, it is true that making Ajax behave in the way WO users have
become accustomed is not necessarily simple. Getting drag-and-drop to
"just work" with object bindings, etc, makes for some slightly funky
code, but the end result is really cool. I suspect if you look at
the code INSIDE of Ruby of Rails for making Ajax integration work,
it's much the same. The vast majority of users just use the end
product, they're not writing the rails framework. Because WO's Ajax
support is fairly new, you're sort of at the "writing the Rails
framework" level at the moment.
As Jean-François mentioned, using DirectActions will give you the
quickest route to success for something like the Hello World
example. The tighter the integration, the trickier the code will
become. The source to Ajax framework is in Wonder, though, and it
provides all the basic tools to create just about anything these
example do, it's just varying levels of cleverness to make them nice
depending on how complicated the desired behavior is.
ms
On May 19, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
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Datum: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:40:48 +0200
An: Mike Schrag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
Hi Mike,
I'm primarily interested in general widgets and form widgets.
I'm tired of trying to bring together WO and Dojo, so wanna give
up. I think
WebObjects clashes with AJAX. It doesn't make sense to use AJAX with
WebObjects.
If anybody wants to convince me of the opposite, i'm willing ...
Greetings,
Ahmet
Von: Mike Schrag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:32:04 +0200
An: "Tokalak, Ahmet, D-IT2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
Incidentally, which features of Dojo are you specifically
interested in?
On May 19, 2006, at 4:48 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
Hi Mike,
If you have worked with Dojo can you tell how you integrated it in
WO? (I'm
not a WO expert ;))
Currently i'm looking in project wonder and wondering how to
integrate the
Dojo toolkit.
The way the Wonder Ajax.Framework is designed is using the JSON-RPC
library.
With this design it not possible to integrate the Dojo toolkit as
it is
intended usage. I have to adapt it to my needs (i.e. Dojo Toolkit
widgets
for the view and JSON_RPC for server communication), but i don't
like it.
Does it exists a better approach?
Cheers,
Ahmet
Von: Mike Schrag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:53:58 +0200
An: WebObjects Development <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
I have been looking at Dojo and actually have a couple Dojo things
wrapped (the rich text component, for instance) in my local
Ajax.framework to try them out. I have not been as impressed with
Dojo when I compare its cross-browser support to, say,
Scriptaculous,
but they have a HUGE set of libraries available. That alone may
make
it compelling enough to support.
ms
On May 18, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
Hi,
I want integrate AJAX in my WO apps, but i'm facing big problems.
The
biggest problems i see is the stucture of a WO application.
Has anybody gained experience of WO-AJAX integration ? (I wanna
work with
the DOJO Toolkit, but the tookit is not important)
Cheers
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