On 29/08/2006, at 12:25 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
I am in FULL agreement with David Avendasora's post, which I pruned
from here.
On 28 Aug 2006, at 14:59, Miguel Arroz wrote:
But think on all the other solutions out there. J2EE has tools?
As far as I know, no. Everyone uses third-party Java IDEs. Ruby on
Rails has tools? Everyone uses TextMate or so. If apple pointed
WOLips as the "official" tools for WO, it would still be better
than with all those other tools - and those tools have success.
Interesting point. However, J2EE is a godawful mess, and was so
from the start; it is an examplar of what to avoid.
So, that's the problem with J2EE. Everytime I start reading up about
it, I don't seem to get anywhere. And there are so many jobs around
for J2EE consultants for a lot more money than I get as an Apple/WO
person. Looking at it again recently, I get the feeling between SE,
ME, and EE that this must have been some marketing persons way of
breaking things down, rather than start with the core and add the
libraries you need.
Rails is designed around the principle of "no configuration", or
"programming by convention", and so TextMate is the ideal IDE for it.
Someone mentioned Rails used sensible defaults. Sounds good to me and
very Apple. Microsoft of course adds as many options into things as
possible, giving tech geeks who know enough to be dangerous the
illusion it must be powerful. (OK I could whine about Unix commands
as well.) I've never subscribed to the shoot-yourself-in-the-foot C
paradigm or blow-your-leg-off C++ paradigm.
WO config files, eomodels and wods, are complex, and a decent GUI
app is essential. These would therefore have to be part of the
officially supported corpus (except that Apple are deprecating
everything, and have said that they won't officially support
anything else).
Send Apple feedback with your concerns, so they may know what
the community feels.
Nah, Apple can read their own lists, just like everyone else.
Paul
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