On Jun 15, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
On 16/06/2009, at 1:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
On 16/06/2009, at 11:30 AM, Michael Schrag wrote:
Maven == Ant cubed. Or maybe Obsfucated Ant. :-P
Chuck, are you speaking from experience here or just shootin'
the breeze? David, do you know how much 'set-up' is required to
use maven with Hudson?
All this toying around with environments etc sounds tiring. :-)
I've had the pleasure of using Maven some now and you're not
really giving the full story here
Well I wasn't attempting to give the full story - only what's
related to building under hudson (which I believe this topic was
about). Sure there's a couple of other steps involved in setting
up maven overall but I think it misleading (though I know Chuck's
mostly joking
No, not joking for what I thought the topic was, "difficulty in
debugging build problems in Ant vs Maven".
... but others believe him word-for-word) to keep suggesting that
by using maven you're problems would be exponentially more
difficult. Then again - Chuck was probably 'goating' a response :-)
Ouch!
In my experience with maven, setting up a new machine is
relatively painless because all of the configuration is self
contained. That is the point I was attempting to make.
I agree that is is very good for dependancy management when
(a) the dependancy still exists in the repository
(b) the repository still exists
(c) there are no build problems
Sometimes this is the case, particularly when you control all the
repositories. It certainly has NOT been the case for all the
Mavenized projects that I have tried to build, especially over a
few years. People "clean up" repositories. Shit breaks.
No worries- look this turned into a much more serious (tone-wise)
discussion than I intended. My initial reply was meant to be taken a
bit more light-hearted... the woes of email :-)
with regards,
--
Lachlan Deck
No worries. But keep the dreadful puns coming.
Chuck
--
Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development
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