If he wants to move it somewhere else then he's probably an advanced user. When I install Eclipse it ends up in my ~/Downloads folder. Then I drag it to where I want it to reside in /Developer/Applications. I have write permissions to that folder.
I've seen the Finder ask the user to authenticate when copying things into /Applications where the user doing the copy does not have enough permissions to do it. On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Christos Konidaris wrote: > My thought exactly. The new user would not be sure if it will break something > by moving things around. > > -ck > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:45 PM, John Huss wrote: > >> YOU CAN DO THAT??? >> >> ;-) >> >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Ricardo J. Parada <rpar...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> If someone wants it somewhere else, then maybe they can just drag it from >> ~/Applications to wherever they want to put it in. >> >> :-) >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Christos Konidaris wrote: >> >>> How about making it a preference in the installer, something like: >>> >>> a) for All Users (put it in /Applications), >>> b) for this User only (put it in ~/Applications) ? >>> >>> This way the user should be in control, so everybody is happy and kittens >>> will be spared. >>> >>> -ck >>> >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>> >>>> Doesn't mean we need to be complicit in their terrible life decisions. >>>> And, I would wager that developers would be tend to be more discerning >>>> with respect to permissions. I think this is officially a religious >>>> argument at this point. I nominate that Jeremy just does whatever makes >>>> him feel good ........ with the knowledge that I'll kill a kitten if he >>>> puts it in /Applications. >>>> >>>> Should we switch over to debating optimal code formatter preferences and >>>> curly brace placement? >>>> >>>> ms >>>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, David Avendasora wrote: >>>> >>>>> How do 99% of all Mac users run? I'm guessing as admin users (there's a >>>>> little evil in all of us). >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Mike Schrag <msch...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's because you either made it world-writable or you run as an admin >>>>>> user, either of which is kind of evil. >>>>>> >>>>>> ms >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a >>>>>>> single problem with permissions. I think that is a non-issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher <kelleh...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering >>>>>>> that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life >>>>>>> easy for..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent >>>>>>> permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Painless migrations to new machines >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Kieran >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. >>>>>>> > Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users >>>>>>> > up and running install in a place other than the normal >>>>>>> > /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can >>>>>>> > move it. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Dave >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> I had no idea what I was getting myself into....heh. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do >>>>>>> >> ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -j >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>> I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and >>>>>>> >>>> forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it >>>>>>> >>>> to my home directory instead. >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home >>>>>>> >>>> directory I would have no reason to keep it there also. >>>>>>> >>> welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> ms >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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