Now that I think of it, I'm not so sure I do agree that every technology sucks. 
I certainly can appreciate well-designed elegant technologies that solve a 
problem well. That's part of the excitement with this profession. If everything 
just sucked most of us wouldn't be in it, well maybe those who are just in it 
for the money, and perhaps they dominate the industry anyway, which sucks and 
why there might be a high suck factor in technologies that actually are used. 
And if all these technologies just sucked there would be no use for them and 
end users would reject them. The uses that we can put computers to are cool 
actually!

Most computing systems are multifaceted, so there may be elements that are 
elegant and parts that suck. What we need is a measure of elegance to suck 
ratio.

Ian

PS I went through messages back to 2005, but couldn't find the first reference 
to REST. Mail find picks up all words like restart, restrict, etc. ERRest seems 
to be first mentioned Nov 2007, but I know we were talking about REST before 
that - I first read Fielding's thesis sometime that year.

On 16 Nov 2010, at 12:33, Ian Joyner wrote:

> On 16 Nov 2010, at 12:23, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>> 
>>> The moral of the story is that every technology sucks, so you might as well 
>>> just build it fast so it can suck in production faster and you can move on 
>>> with your life.
>> 
>> I hate it when he is right.
> 
> Don't think I hate it, but I think we all agree anyway. We should choose the 
> path of least pain.
> 
> By the way I did write up my understanding of REST lately:
> 
> http://www.ianjoyner.name/Ian_Joyner/REST.html
> 
> I hope this might be useful, or if any errors let me know.
> 
> By the way, I think it was Chuck who was the first person I ever heard use 
> the term REST.
> 
> Ian
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