That was it.  It is hard to believe that this Rube Goldberg thing I have called 
a "system configuration" is actually worth it sometimes.  It was a clean 
install . . . five years ago or so.  

One of these weekends when the wife and kids are out of town I'll man up, get a 
bottle of scotch, one of those little desktop sand Zen garden things and a 
baseball bat and upgrade to 5.4 and start all over.  I have to admit I harbor a 
deep-seated fear of being prompted to install AppleVision, tape 2, to copy some 
file that I have to append a tilda to the end of or something.  In reality, the 
wiki's instructions look so good I'm sure it is going to be fine, but crap like 
this, which is admittedly largely of my own making, make me fear for my sanity.

Anyhow, cheers, skål, thanks again, and send me the bill.

John

On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

> 
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:29 PM, John Larson wrote:
> 
>> You're a swell guy Chuck. One of these years I'm going to go to WOWODC just 
>> to buy you a beer. If you'd rather, I'll just ship you a case so as not 
>> impede your way home. 
> 
> You could probably use it yourself after today.  :-)

> 
>> I'm on the train going home now so I can't be certain, but it does appear as 
>> if I just completely missed the wotaskd bundle.
> 
> It does not need that bundle, just a path to that jar.  I am not certain that 
> it even needs that jar, it might just need wo.bootstrapjar to point to some 
> file, any file as a flag that this is a modern WO install.  There are some... 
> interesting bits of code in woproject.  :-)
> 
> 
>> Once I'm home I move all that into place and try again.   Too little sleep, 
>> too much cold medicine. I'm pretty sure that that's it. 
> 
> Let's hope!
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, John Larson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've just set up a new machine using what I thought was a standard kit for 
>>>> setting up machines, but am totally stumped here.  On my new machine 
>>>> everything appears to build fine, but the frameworksBaseURL isn't coming 
>>>> through to the command line.  No errors, it just doesn't come through, nor 
>>>> does the bit about "-classpath WOBootstrap.jar."  If I run ant with the 
>>>> -verbose argument, everything is totally different between the new machine 
>>>> and a working machine.  
>>>> 
>>>> Here are some examples:
>>>> - The working machine shows it doing a chmod on the built files and the 
>>>> new machine doesn't.  
>>>> - The new machine makes a variable called HOMEROOT, the old machine never 
>>>> spits out anything about HOMEROOT.  
>>>> - The new machine has a routine to do "path-to-drive-letter substitution" 
>>>> on the command line to shorten it if it is too long, but the working 
>>>> machine doesn't.
>>>> 
>>>> There's gobs of these, it's like it is completely different.  But I'm 
>>>> hoping that maybe someone who actually wrote it will recognize what I'm 
>>>> talking about :-)
>>> 
>>> Check this:
>>> 
>>> saskatoon:~ chuck$ grep bootstrap ~/Library/Application\ 
>>> Support/WOLips/wolips.properties
>>> wo.bootstrapjar=/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/WOBootstrap.jar
>>> 
>>> wo.bootstrapjar needs to point to a file that is actually there.  If not, 
>>> you get a WO 5.2 (or 5.1?) build.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This seems like a classpath problem to me and that ant is picking up a 
>>>> different WOApplication, but I'm stumped.  I thought the only file that 
>>>> could be involved was 
>>>> Eclipse35/plugins/org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject.and_3.5.6066/lib/woproject.jar,
>>>>  but they are the same and I've copied and duplicated it between the 
>>>> machines a dozen times.  If I remove that file, nothing works, so I know 
>>>> it isn't picking up another WOApplication somewhere else in the classpath. 
>>>>  The verbose output just looks so different it looks like completely 
>>>> different versions, but I haven't downloaded anything new!
>>>> 
>>>> I don't set new machines up very often, but even so, I've never had this 
>>>> happen.  Any ideas where I can look for clues?  It's WO 5.3, Eclipse 3.5, 
>>>> and everything else works: build, split, tar, etc.  If I manually add the 
>>>> WOFrameworksBaseURL in the script then the app works fine, if I don't the 
>>>> images, css files, etc. don't get linked to correctly, as you'd expect.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
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