On Dec 9, 2010, at 5:54 PM, John Larson wrote: > That was it. It is hard to believe that this Rube Goldberg thing I have > called a "system configuration" is actually worth it sometimes. It was a > clean install . . . five years ago or so.
Most days I am surprised that any of this works at all! > One of these weekends when the wife and kids are out of town I'll man up, get > a bottle of scotch, one of those little desktop sand Zen garden things and a > baseball bat and upgrade to 5.4 and start all over. WO 5.4? It is easy. A few of hours at most unless you have been doing crazy stuff with private API. http://www.global-village.net/chill/webobjects_5.4.2_changes > I have to admit I harbor a deep-seated fear of being prompted to install > AppleVision, tape 2, to copy some file that I have to append a tilda to the > end of or something. :-) > In reality, the wiki's instructions look so good I'm sure it is going to be > fine, but crap like this, which is admittedly largely of my own making, make > me fear for my sanity. Yeah, well... some of the wiki docs are vague, confusing, misleading, and out of date. The rest are good though. ;-) > > Anyhow, cheers, skål, thanks again, and send me the bill. > > John > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> >> On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:29 PM, John Larson wrote: >> >>> You're a swell guy Chuck. One of these years I'm going to go to WOWODC just >>> to buy you a beer. If you'd rather, I'll just ship you a case so as not >>> impede your way home. >> >> You could probably use it yourself after today. :-) > >> >>> I'm on the train going home now so I can't be certain, but it does appear >>> as if I just completely missed the wotaskd bundle. >> >> It does not need that bundle, just a path to that jar. I am not certain >> that it even needs that jar, it might just need wo.bootstrapjar to point to >> some file, any file as a flag that this is a modern WO install. There are >> some... interesting bits of code in woproject. :-) >> >> >>> Once I'm home I move all that into place and try again. Too little sleep, >>> too much cold medicine. I'm pretty sure that that's it. >> >> Let's hope! >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, John Larson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've just set up a new machine using what I thought was a standard kit >>>>> for setting up machines, but am totally stumped here. On my new machine >>>>> everything appears to build fine, but the frameworksBaseURL isn't coming >>>>> through to the command line. No errors, it just doesn't come through, >>>>> nor does the bit about "-classpath WOBootstrap.jar." If I run ant with >>>>> the -verbose argument, everything is totally different between the new >>>>> machine and a working machine. >>>>> >>>>> Here are some examples: >>>>> - The working machine shows it doing a chmod on the built files and the >>>>> new machine doesn't. >>>>> - The new machine makes a variable called HOMEROOT, the old machine never >>>>> spits out anything about HOMEROOT. >>>>> - The new machine has a routine to do "path-to-drive-letter substitution" >>>>> on the command line to shorten it if it is too long, but the working >>>>> machine doesn't. >>>>> >>>>> There's gobs of these, it's like it is completely different. But I'm >>>>> hoping that maybe someone who actually wrote it will recognize what I'm >>>>> talking about :-) >>>> >>>> Check this: >>>> >>>> saskatoon:~ chuck$ grep bootstrap ~/Library/Application\ >>>> Support/WOLips/wolips.properties >>>> wo.bootstrapjar=/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/WOBootstrap.jar >>>> >>>> wo.bootstrapjar needs to point to a file that is actually there. If not, >>>> you get a WO 5.2 (or 5.1?) build. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> This seems like a classpath problem to me and that ant is picking up a >>>>> different WOApplication, but I'm stumped. I thought the only file that >>>>> could be involved was >>>>> Eclipse35/plugins/org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject.and_3.5.6066/lib/woproject.jar, >>>>> but they are the same and I've copied and duplicated it between the >>>>> machines a dozen times. If I remove that file, nothing works, so I know >>>>> it isn't picking up another WOApplication somewhere else in the >>>>> classpath. The verbose output just looks so different it looks like >>>>> completely different versions, but I haven't downloaded anything new! >>>>> >>>>> I don't set new machines up very often, but even so, I've never had this >>>>> happen. Any ideas where I can look for clues? It's WO 5.3, Eclipse 3.5, >>>>> and everything else works: build, split, tar, etc. If I manually add the >>>>> WOFrameworksBaseURL in the script then the app works fine, if I don't the >>>>> images, css files, etc. don't get linked to correctly, as you'd expect. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> John _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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