The parties also include discussions of farming in Portugal or the Island of 
Niue (http://www.niueisland.com/) - even though I think Miguel is going to try 
farming in the frozen Canadian tundra in the near future since there is 
apparently more goats in Canada than Portugal and the Island of Niue combined.

-Kieran

PS. I think the character of this thread demonstrates that it is Friday?

On May 6, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Alan Ward wrote:

> 
> I heard the parties often include goats
> 
> On May 6, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Worman wrote:
> 
>> On the contrary, I haven't met a single one of you in person (yet) and from 
>> what I can tell you're just a bunch of drunks who plan a big party once a 
>> year.
>> 
>> And, boy do I wish I could come. :-(
>> 
>> This list is super helpful - greatest folks around.
>> 
>> Tim Worman
>> UCLA GSE&IS
>> 
>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> We should probably point out to Kevin that many of us have known each other 
>>> for years after meeting at conferences and work and that a lot of good 
>>> natured ribbing occurs on the list.  There is no animosity here and we keep 
>>> it like that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:05 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Don't be shy about asking. This community is very willing to help in 
>>>>> general. We all were beginners at one time, although David Avendasora has 
>>>>> been struggling for years to get past asking stupid questions ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Over 6 years to be exact... :-)
>>>> 
>>>> I pride myself on my bar-lowering abilities!
>>>> 
>>>> I feel that a well placed stupid question works wonders to help you 
>>>> high-horse code gurus down to a more approachable level.
>>>> 
>>>> Would you believe that for every question I ask on the list, I've gotten 
>>>> part way through writing at least 5 or 6 others? I find that while trying 
>>>> to more clearly state what I need or what is going wrong, the answer 
>>>> becomes obvious, which, I guess, means that no one is more helpful than 
>>>> you guys.
>>>> 
>>>> Literally.
>>>> 
>>>> :-P
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously though, the list is awesome, and I've only ever gotten a RTFM 
>>>> answer once or twice in 6 years of WO development work. I couldn't 
>>>> possibly list the number of people on this list that have gone far out of 
>>>> their way to help me, even with the stupid questions. I've tried to pay it 
>>>> back by answering any questions that I can and updating the Wiki when I 
>>>> see out of date information.
>>>> 
>>>> Long Live Direct To Java Client!
>>>> 
>>>> (just had to throw that in)
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> -- 
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