Le 2011-07-11 à 20:44, Tim Worman a écrit :

> On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Le 2011-07-10 à 22:12, Ken Anderson a écrit :
>> 
>>> I remember Nibble!
>>> 
>>> Yes, Pascal, you are pretty young for the community at 35!
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry I couldn't make WOWODC this year - lets start planning the next 
>>> one so I can plan my family vacation around it :)
>> 
>> I'm tempted to do it on the same week-end (June 29-30, July 1) next year.
> 
> That would actually work pretty well I think. July 4th weekend was a tough 
> pull this year.

Next year, July 4th is on Wednesday, so I guess it's not problematic? We can 
also do it on July 6-7-8, but the Jazz Fest will be done by then :-)

> This entire thread has actually ended up being a bit reassuring - it pulled a 
> lot of posters out with names I don't remember seeing before.
> 
> Tim Worman
> UCLA GSE&IS
> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's honestly pretty simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Apple never makes statements about future products, or their plan for 
>>>> existing products.  If you're holding your breath for that to happen, good 
>>>> luck!
>>>> 
>>>> The community continues to maintain / upgrade WO in a way that is far 
>>>> better than a corporation holding the reins.  Even for a currently sold 
>>>> commercial product, what guarantee is there that it will be updated?  Or 
>>>> Open Source projects that have little to no support when the champion has 
>>>> left it?
>>>> 
>>>> To me, just the fact that WebObjects has been around since 1996 (15 
>>>> years!) means that it has more legs than any other tool I can think of.
>>>> 
>>>> YMMV
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Karl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t think that there is an issue about it disappearing.  The license 
>>>>> allows us to use what we have now indefinitely.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The issue is about moving forwards and modernizing...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Karl
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> How about the continued availability of WO.  People can SAY that Apple 
>>>>>> relies heavily on WO and thus it won't go away, but again it just feels 
>>>>>> more secure knowing that it is officially true, and that WO will always 
>>>>>> be kept out there so that I can put away my doubts that it will suddenly 
>>>>>> disappear.  I'd just feel safer while we're all building on this 
>>>>>> platform that it won't be pulled from under us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> there has been official word-- you just gotta go back ten years and ask 
>>>>>>> ernie prabhakar or something.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> seriously, the official word is that WO is and shall remain WO and will 
>>>>>>> never be open sourced or whatever.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I opine as well, but that's the way it is and shall be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Who, if anyone, represents Apple on this mailing list?  When it comes 
>>>>>>>> to questions of open-sourcing WO or the availability of WO, the answer 
>>>>>>>> should be posted by an Apple official rep. in this mailing list.  
>>>>>>>> Anyone can opine, but I think the group benefits greatly when an 
>>>>>>>> official word is heard -- second best to that is an "insider", even if 
>>>>>>>> not officially charged by Apple to represent in the list.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>> 
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