This issue appears to be resolved. And, it appears it has no relationship to 
the other other issue I'm experiencing. DOGGONIT!! :-)

So, um, set your frameworksBaseURL.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS

On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Tim Worman wrote:

> 
> On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2011-08-21, at 12:33 PM, Tim Worman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2011-08-20, at 11:28 AM, Tim Worman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's taken me a few days to get back to this due to a deployment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2011-08-10, at 7:03 AM, Timothy Worman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am not really clear on what you are doing and what the problem is.  
>>>>>>>> This code should only affect URLs that get sent into your application. 
>>>>>>>>  Which should be none.  Why do you have relative URLs to resources?  
>>>>>>>> Have you looked at the BASE tag, 
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_base.asp?  That maybe a better 
>>>>>>>> solution to your problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do believe I have relative urls in my css pointing to images used by 
>>>>>>> the css. I can't look at the moment but I used suggestions I found on 
>>>>>>> the list to do it. Maybe this causes issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wonder uses this (e.g. the Ajax frameworks) so it should work if you 
>>>>>> have a Wonder app.  Check the page source, does the CSS link look like 
>>>>>> this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>>> href="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/AjaxExample.woa/_wr_/wodata=/Users/chuck/Documents/Wonder/Frameworks/Ajax/Ajax/build/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/modalbox.css"/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, in deployment that page resources are linked like:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>> href="/WebObjects/Frameworks/GSEISCoreFramework.framework/WebServerResources/core.css"/>
>>>>> <script 
>>>>> src="/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/prototype.js"></script>
>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>> href="/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/ibox/ibox.css"/>
>>>> 
>>>> That is vended through Apache.  Those won't reach the app (unless you have 
>>>> some whacky rewrite rules :-)
>>> 
>>> The only rewrite rules I use are the ones to convert my /cgi-bin/WebObjects 
>>> bla bla into the app name.
>>> 
>>> But I'm pretty sure I do have a problem here. :-) Because what I'm actually 
>>> doing is creating symlinks in 
>>> /Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks to the actual embedded 
>>> framework resources in the split install of the app. I have to because 
>>> those are the paths where the app tries to discover those resources in 
>>> deployment. But I'm not really sure when this started to be a problem or 
>>> why - I've always used the typical project layout and build files. Maybe my 
>>> build files are behind the times? 'Cause they never really get updated 
>>> unless you create a new project.
>> 
>> You need this in the build.properties file of the app:
>> 
>> frameworksBaseURL=/WebObjects/Cadre.woa/Frameworks
>> 
>> http://davidleber.net/?p=279
> 
> Thanks Chuck.
> 
> I did find something about that last night - and I completely remember 
> reading discussions about it related to WO 543 but I did not make the 
> connection to any issues I was having since I wasn't seeing any grand 
> failures in my apps. I'm gonna make sure this is set properly and see if it 
> has any relationship to the other issue I've been tracking with requests not 
> completing.
> 
> Tim Worman
> UCLA GSE&IS
> 
> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In development they are linked more like:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>> href="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/eTimesheet.woa/-55555/wr/wodata=/Users/worman/Source/corewo/GSEISCoreFramework/WebServerResources/core.css"/>
>>>>> <script 
>>>>> src="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/eTimesheet.woa/-55555/wr/wodata=/Library/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/modalbox.js"></script>
>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>> href="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/eTimesheet.woa/-55555/wr/wodata=/Library/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/modalbox.css"/>
>>>>> <script 
>>>>> src="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/eTimesheet.woa/-55555/wr/wodata=/Library/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/ibox/ibox.js"></script>
>>>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
>>>>> href="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/eTimesheet.woa/-55555/wr/wodata=/Library/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/ibox/ibox.css"/>
>>>> 
>>>> The app serves these.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What's been causing this for me are requests for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ajax/WebServerResources/ibox/images/bg.png" when using AMD.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't see why that should be.  Are you using a custom CSS file with 
>>>>>>>> the AMD?  Is the relative URL in there?  That will only work with 
>>>>>>>> Wonder, and only if the image path is relative to the location of the 
>>>>>>>> CSS file in your project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not using custom css for the AMD. I'm simply using the component 
>>>>>>> in my app. I didn't know any of this trouble was happening until I 
>>>>>>> started trying to handle session restoration for ajax requests. Then I 
>>>>>>> noticed that method was being called all the time and it seemed related 
>>>>>>> to image files. At that point I started searching the list to figure 
>>>>>>> out why that would be happening. That's what bought me here to Klaus' 
>>>>>>> thread on the same topic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It should not be getting called all the time (obviously).  Do you have 
>>>>>> CSS and images that are vended directly from Apache and not through the 
>>>>>> application?  That is the only thing that I can think of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the above links reflect that they are being vended through apache?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also think this entire issue I've encountered is related to another 
>>>>> issue I'm having that I brought up in January regarding runaway httpd 
>>>>> threads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2011/Jan/msg00224.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm still having that issue but I'm gonna bring that thread back so that 
>>>>> subject stays on track.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-05, at 12:51 PM, Timothy Worman wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-05, at 11:45 AM, Tim Worman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm seeing this now and it's been driving me exactly bat-sh!t 
>>>>>>>>>>> crazy. In all the threads I've read on this topic the only thing I 
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't found is WHY it happens. Why do any of the transactions on 
>>>>>>>>>>> my pages believe that image files are sessions ids? Anybody……….? 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bueller………?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The transactions on your pages _don't_ believe that image files are 
>>>>>>>>>> sessions ids.  From that page:
>>>>>>>>>> The request URI looks like this: 
>>>>>>>>>> /cgi-bin/WebObjects/woapp.woa/wo/images/headerart.jpg. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The /wo/ indicates that it is a session based, component request so 
>>>>>>>>>> WO just hands it off to the WOComponentRequestHandler.  The 
>>>>>>>>>> WOComponentRequestHandler needs a session to handle the request, so 
>>>>>>>>>> it creates one if one does not exist.  After that point it hits the 
>>>>>>>>>> error of the URL being nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation Chuck - very much appreciated. After 
>>>>>>>>> implementing Klaus's code, I'm now  returning 404's on most of the 
>>>>>>>>> images in my app - so they don't show up at least in development. So, 
>>>>>>>>> this will fubar deployment. I am using Wonder/apache to rewrite urls. 
>>>>>>>>> Do I have to get the rewriting involved in referencing my images 
>>>>>>>>> properly now?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What's been causing this for me are requests for 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ajax/WebServerResources/ibox/images/bg.png" when using AMD.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> …and maybe others.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and thanks to Klaus for sharing the code!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Worman
>>>>>>>>>>> UCLA GSE&IS
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometime back in 2005 Kaj Hejer posted a question about having a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> relative link to an image, and clicking links on the wo app page 
>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in their custom 'session expired' page.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The solution was to catch the request for the image in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dispatchRequest and return a 404.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I recently came acros the same type of problem. I though I'd 
>>>>>>>>>>>> share the code:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>    http://web.mac.com/kib/page1/files/relative_image.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have sessions that you can't account for, this may be why.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> kib
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The trouble with normal is it always gets worse."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce Cockburn
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus Berkling
>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>> DynEd International, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.dyned.com | www.eskimo.com/~kiberkli
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their 
>>>>>>>> overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific 
>>>>>>>> problems.    
>>>>>>>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
>>>>>> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
>>>>>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>>> 
>>>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
>>>> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
>>>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>> 
>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
>> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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