On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:25 PM, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote:

> Make sure in your Eclipse Preferences --> WOLips--> Build Preferences 
> settings you don't have  "Generate Bundle" checked.
> 
> That has bit me twice now and consumed many frustrating hours.

A diversion from a grumpy Gavin using "Generate Bundle" as an example of my 
trouble.


I've been programming using WebObjects, off and on, for ten years (and using 
Wonder for the last six/seven), and still haven't a clue what "Generate Bundle" 
actually means or does.  The most cogent description found by searching for the 
phrase in the WOCommunity web site is, "A bundleless build means that you have 
unchecked the build option Generate bundles within the WOLips preferences" .. 
yippee!  I would like to fix things like that for the next confused person.

I applaud Robert's (and everyone's) work on Wonder 6 without reservation, and I 
sincerely wish I could contribute to it but I feel just enough below the 
"expert" level to doubt my abilities to do that.  For another example, I've no 
idea why *.api files are included in a deployment build when they are a purely 
build-time artifact (aren't they?).  My version of build.xml hasn't copied them 
to a build *.woa (or *.war) for many years so I think I'm right -- but the 
WOLips build.xml does copy them to Resources and that's so engrained in WOLips 
that it must be intentional (yes/no?).  Should I submit an update via git to 
improve this build.xml is this, and other, ways?  My feeling is, "No Way!" -- 
there's hardly a more critical file in W6 -- I'd be crazy to touch it!


FWIW: I'm grumpy because I'm caught, again, with a scenario that baffles me -- 
an app that works correctly on my development Mac that when, when rsync'd to 
Amazon EC2, doesn't (clicking in an Ajax.framework component doesn't fire the 
"action" method).  This behavior started when I moved to Wonder 6 so I need to 
reverse that decision, and stop using W6, to stay productive.

That puzzle plays into this message too.  I'm good enough at this stuff that I 
could eventually find the cause, most likely something I missed, less likely a 
bug, version skew, etc, by diverting time from my paid work and digging into 
this, but it's not worth it (at least not this month) because I have a product 
to ship.  That doesn't improve my mood -- I'm a devotee of this technology, I'm 
a believer in open software, this is a talented and generous group of people -- 
I'd love to contribute, but don't feel that I can, that feels wrong in so many 
ways.


Does this dilemma strike an accord with anyone?  Actually, I know the answer to 
that is "Yes" (if you have personal copies of Wonder or WOLips that you use on 
a regular basis, it should be familiar).

I feel quite uncomfortable sending this message -- it was generated out of a 
long felt frustration and triggered by James' ".. has bit me twice now and 
consumed many frustrating hours", and would be much better as part of a 
face-to-face conversation but that's not an option.  In no way is it my intent 
to brush anyone's fur the wrong way.
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