Paul, Sorry you won't be there - we'll miss you! Ken On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Yu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Personally, Apple is just starting to hit its stride with xCode and its > development environment. > > For a long time, Apple/NeXT had to worry about horizontal portability of its > entire stack, thus let the development environment languish. Back in the > day, Project Builder/Interface Builder was way ahead of its time. VC++ or > Borland C++ IDEs were way behind. > > Now Apple is bringing its environments forward. Really exciting. > > But like you said Ken, availability of integration libraries is a huge value. > > We have to remember, Apple left WO to die because Steve did not believe Apple > was an enterprise software company. The company's financial results tells > the story. It is NOT an enterprise software company. It is the world's > largest music retailer. It sells mobile phones, etc., etc. Apple will not > devote resources to WO or WO Obj-C if it does not make any material impact on > its bottom line, and that is a LARGE number. > > Paul > > btw. I will not be making the trip this year. My apologies. Have a great > event. > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Ken Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> No - there aren't - but you knew that already :) >> >> I work in both Xcode/iOS and Eclipse/WO every day. I like both, but I have >> to say that Apple is just moving more and more towards what Java already had >> (properties, not requiring all methods in headers, etc). There reason to >> keep WO in Java is simple - availability of libraries. Whether it be >> adaptors or 40 JSON libraries, it matters. >> >> Ken >> >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Paul Yu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Good reply. >>> >>> Just a little historical background. >>> >>> One of the major reasons to switch to Java was the availability of JDBC >>> adaptors. People were not writing Obj-C database adaptors. For the >>> enterprise, without access to Enterprise Databases, we would be dead in the >>> water. Are there lots of people jumping on the Obj-C database adaptors for >>> Core Data on OS X? >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Quinton Dolan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 16/06/2013, at 1:09 AM, Baiss Eric Magnusson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interesting discussion, >>>>> >>>>> <http://kevinlawler.com/objective-c> >>>>> >>>>> I would like it if WO went back to Objective-C. Eclipse is not happening. >>>> >>>> So you use a different IDE or fix what's broken. Switching WO back to >>>> Obj-C because you don't like eclipse is like a painter becoming a brick >>>> layer because he doesn't like the brand of paint brush he has been using. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com >>> >>> This email sent to [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
