FWIW, in our company we have people using either Eclipse or Idea IDE, working 
on the same very large and complex (non-WO) code base. There are IDE choices 
and Maven-based Java projects are fully IDE-agnostic and let anyone to pick 
their favorite tool.

Andrus


On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Chris Walters <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW I've switched to Vaadin + Cayenne for stuff I would have used WO for in 
> the past.  I just can't get my head around Eclipse (or maybe I just don't 
> want to? I dunno but for whatever reason I can't stand it) and much prefer 
> Netbeans.  I know I'm in the minority perhaps - and poor workmen blame their 
> tools etc. - but that's me, sorry!
> 
> On 17 Jun 2013, at 12:08, Ken Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> No - there aren't - but you knew that already :)
>> 
>> I work in both Xcode/iOS and Eclipse/WO every day.  I like both, but I have 
>> to say that Apple is just moving more and more towards what Java already had 
>> (properties, not requiring all methods in headers, etc).  There reason to 
>> keep WO in Java is simple - availability of libraries.  Whether it be 
>> adaptors or 40 JSON libraries, it matters.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Paul Yu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good reply.
>>> 
>>> Just a little historical background.
>>> 
>>> One of the major reasons to switch to Java was the availability of JDBC 
>>> adaptors.  People were not writing Obj-C database adaptors.  For the 
>>> enterprise, without access to Enterprise Databases, we would be dead in the 
>>> water.  Are there lots of people jumping on the Obj-C database adaptors for 
>>> Core Data on OS X?
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Quinton Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 16/06/2013, at 1:09 AM, Baiss Eric Magnusson <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting discussion,
>>>>> 
>>>>>           <http://kevinlawler.com/objective-c>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like it if WO went back to Objective-C. Eclipse is not happening.
>>>> 
>>>> So you use a different IDE or fix what's broken.  Switching WO back to 
>>>> Obj-C because you don't like eclipse is like a painter becoming a brick 
>>>> layer because he doesn't like the brand of paint brush he has been using.
>>>> 
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