Please please please, stop thinking that Apple will help us. Not that some 
Apple employees don't want to, but Apple management don't care. Many people 
have asked for new releases by talking to top level management and it went 
nowhere.

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> Le 2014-03-07 à 05:04, jazz <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I saw two messages on the list recently. Maybe we can combine the two?
> 
> Alan, would Apple be able to provide server access for Jenkins, Confluence? 
> (current server is paid up to June 30th and there are not enough members to 
> pay for it afterwards, see below).
> 
> Many thanks, Bart
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:50:14 -0700
> From: Alan Ward <[email protected]>
> To: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects?
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> 
> I prefer "sunny side up" ;-)
> 
> -------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:04:53 -0500
> From: Pascal Robert <[email protected]>
> To: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>
> Cc: WebObjects Development <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: My last WOWODC
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> 
>> Le 2014-03-06 à 13:51, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi Pascal,
>> 
>> On 2014-03-05, 6:14 PM, "Pascal Robert" wrote:
>> 
>> Well, it's really the last WOWODC that I organize. I need time to fix some 
>> minor health issues, and with my 40 hours+ job and the kids, I just don't 
>> have the time (not excluding that I have spent more than 20 hours of 
>> accounting, and have to write the annual report before March 20th).
>> 
>> While I am sad to see it go, I think this is the right decision at this 
>> time.  I hope this makes your life a little better.  Have you given any 
>> thought on what to do with the WO Community site and resources?  Will you 
>> still be involved in that?
> 
> I can help with the server (upgrading Jenkins and Confluence, etc.), but I 
> have no time to modernize the Web site. The server is paid up to June 30th, 
> we will need more paid members to pay for it after that.
> 
>> 
>> Two guys from Germany contacted me to say that they can organize something 
>> in Germany next year, which makes sense since this is the only area where 
>> the number of WO developers doesn't drop every year.
>> 
>> To the people who are coming to WOWODC 2014, I will be glad to see you one 
>> last time (except virtually). To the others, I hope to see you somewhere in 
>> future.
>> 
>> We will be happy to see you again, too.  Thank you for all of your tireless 
>> work over the years that made WOWODC actually happen.  Without you there 
>> would not have been a WOWODC!
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
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