Hi David,

On 15 Oct 2014, at 11:25 am, David Holt <[email protected]> wrote:

> We're beginning to tackle just this problem. One helpful site is 
> http://www.whatismybrowser.com and has an API available, but I'm not sure 
> that it does anything different than you could do in WO. We use it in a 
> support context to tell people whether they are running a browser considered 
> out of date and gives instructions for how to update, turn on JavaScript etc. 
> I've realized since, though that it is quite laptop/desktop centric since a 
> quick download will not be the solution to upgrade a browser on mobile 
> devices. 

Thanks I'll take a look at that.  Google suggests there is at least one 
Java-based browser sniffing project in what seems like active development, 
which might be useful:

https://github.com/HaraldWalker/user-agent-utils

Presumably you could write a more modern implementation of ERXBrowser with 
something like that.

> Another problem we're encountering is the huge variety in connection speed 
> differences between "modern" devices. Also, since people are now using USB 
> cel sticks or their mobile devices as hotspots for laptops, the variety is 
> unpredictable and vast. We can no longer make the assumptions about 
> connection speed that we could have even a couple of years ago.
> 
> Sorry for no solution, but maybe our experience can add fuel to the fire :)

Definitely.  I really just wanted to know what other people were doing.  I 
fully understand the philosophical objection to browser sniffing, and the 
theoretical superiority of client-side capability detection and responsive 
design, but sometimes you have to solve actual problems in the real world on a 
limited budget.  In this case, all I want to know is whether the user is 
probably running a "mobile" browser at the time of their first request.


-- 
Paul Hoadley
http://logicsquad.net/


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