Here is another recent book. I didn’t see it listed in Ramsey’s reply.

http://www.amazon.com/Learning-The-Wonders-introduction-applications/dp/3952423300

This book gives a wonderful (forgive the pun) example of installation of the 
frameworks.

BTW, where are you? What part of the world?

Ted



On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’m afraid there’s no substitute for lots of reading :)
> 
> If I were you, I’d start with David LeBer’s screen casts WebObjects, WOLips 
> and Wonder tutorial, part 1 and 2 found here
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts
> 
> That will give you a gentle introduction to WebObjects. There’s quite a lot 
> of documentation to read
> 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/JavaDoc+and+other+documentation
> 
> Unlike other Java solutions, WebObjects is a full stack solution. Whereas 
> something like Apache Tapestry only tries to solve html generation issues or 
> Apache Cayenne only tries to handle database issues or Jetty is just a 
> deployment container, WebObjects is all of that and then some.
> 
> Everyone goes through this. It’s called “The learning cliff” because it’s 
> much steeper than a typical learning curve. If you don’t familiarize yourself 
> with what is available, then you’ll no doubt end up trying to reinvent 
> something that already exists in WebObjects. That you even got my application 
> template running with no other knowledge of WebObjects is pretty amazing to 
> me. When I started, it took me nearly a month just to get 
> Eclipse/WOLips/WebObjects/Wonder all installed and working properly.
> 
> I’ll copy the list on this reply. I know several people who follow it who 
> will probably have other good advice/recommended reading for someone just 
> getting started.
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ramsey,
>> I hope y're fine.
>> I'am writing to you to request your help for learning webobjects.
>> 
>> I have a good background in java programming but it's the first time i'am 
>> dealing with webobjetcs.
>> 
>> So i would like you to help me by indexing the good practice and good docs i 
>> should start with. 
>> 
>> I'am a little bit confused because now wonder is the reference but i could 
>> not find good quickstart about it.
>> 
>> I saw the good job you did on the community but for the beginner that i am 
>> it is not so easy.
>> 
>> I am now trying to custumize a framework with my requirement and its is so 
>> difficult for me because there is a lot of concept i dont understand 
>> properly.
>> 
>> I bougth the book practical webobject but a lot of class are now different 
>> with wonder and i confuse.
>> 
>> The apps that i wopuld like to start with is a user managenment system, that 
>> i will be able to use in all my future projects. That's why i discorver your 
>> great work on ponder that i would like to use for the begining before having 
>> a deep knowledge.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank for all your contributions.
> 
> 
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