No question in MY mind which it is!
On 2015-10-02, 5:17 PM, "Hugi Thordarson" <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote: >If I make it, we will. I’ll allow you to decide if that’s a promise or a >threat :). > >- hugi > > >> Will we have fermented shark loin for breakfast? :-) >> >> On 2015-10-02, 3:55 PM, >> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com on behalf of >> Pascal Robert" >><webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com >> on behalf of prob...@macti.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>>> Le 2015-10-02 à 18:00, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> a écrit : >>>> >>>> Apple silently killed WebObjects and abandoned it's users roughly a >>>> decade ago (in a somewhat less-than-honest manner >>>>(Floop-de-diddity-doo >>>> You, Apple)). >>>> >>>> But the community marches on. I¹m constantly impressed by how this >>>> community survives and keeps what's essentially a dead product the >>>>best >>>> IDE/web-framework combination available. But at the same time, it¹s >>>>kind >>>> of triste. We¹ll never get new users. No one will use a dead >>>>framework. >>>> I hesitate to recommend it myself. >>>> >>>> We really need a future destination. I¹ve found a future for my data >>>>in >>>> Cayenne (I¹ve converted most of my WO/EOF projects to use Cayenne >>>> instead of EOF and it¹s awesome) but I haven¹t found any web >>>>frameworks >>>> that can even begin to compare to WO. And I¹ve looked hard. >>> >>> You know, now that we have a direct flight between Iceland and >>>Montreal, >>> your conversion to Cayenne would be a great presentation about WOWODC >>> 2016. :-) >>> >>>> - hugi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2. okt. 2015, at 21:01, Alan Ward <aw...@apple.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not >>>>> inside. Just my personal opinion >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was reading this Wikipedia article. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware >>>>>> >>>>>> Would the list agree that WebObjects is now abandonware? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Definitions of "abandoned" vary, but in general it is like any item >>>>>> that is abandoned - it is ignored by the owner, and as such product >>>>>> support and possibly copyright enforcement are also "abandoned". It >>>>>> can refer to a product that is no longer available for legal >>>>>>purchase, >>>>>> over the age where the product creator feels an obligation to >>>>>>continue >>>>>> to support it, or where operating systems or hardwareplatforms have >>>>>> evolved to such a degree that the creator feels continued support >>>>>> cannot be financially justified." >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/award%40apple. >>>>>>co >>>>>> m >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to aw...@apple.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hugi%40karlmenn >>>>>.i >>>>> s >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to h...@karlmenn.is >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> >>>> >>>>https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti. >>>>ca >>>> >>>> This email sent to prob...@macti.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> >>>https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40gevityinc >>>.c >>> om >>> >>> This email sent to ch...@gevityinc.com >> > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
