Thanks for checking that out, sounds plausible.  And yeah, not the best 
solution, but I wanted to see if I could get it working at all and take it from 
there.  I may try using IP’s for WOHost values.



> On Dec 8, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Klaus Berkling <webobje...@berkling.us> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Jeff Schmitz <jeffschm...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:jeffschm...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe I’ve checked everything you mention (see below) to no avail.  One 
>> thought I had is that the servers are running different Mac OS versions.  
>> Could the WOAdaptor compiled for El Capitan on the head machine not be able 
>> to use a remote app instance running under Mt. Lion on the remote machine?
> 
> The OS probably doesn’t matter.  Is this right:
> 
> netbrackets1.netbrackets.com <http://netbrackets1.netbrackets.com/> has 
> address 208.52.161.87
> 87.161.52.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer netbrackets1.netbrackets.com 
> <http://netbrackets1.netbrackets.com/>.
> 
> netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info 
> <http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info/> has address 208.52.189.44
> 44.189.52.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
> netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info 
> <http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info/>.
> 
> I have a feeling the servers need to be in the same domain - Can someone 
> second that?
> I always put my hosts on a private network but if you have Mac minis you 
> might not have that option (maybe firewire of thunderbolt network bridge?).
> You don’t want to send your application traffic over a co-location network 
> anyways.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Klaus Berkling <webobje...@berkling.us 
>>> <mailto:webobje...@berkling.us>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Jeff Schmitz <jeffschm...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:jeffschm...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I’m trying to follow the instructions at:  
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=7143530 
>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=7143530>
>>>> 
>>>> I'm using one machine for a web server (e.g. Apache, womonitor) and one 
>>>> for the application server (wotaskd, my app)
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve set the WebObjectsConfig appropriately on the webserver machine, 
>>>> e.g.: 
>>>> 
>>>> WebObjectsConfig http://www.server.com:1085,http://www2.server.com:1085 
>>>> <http://www.server.com:1085,http://www2.server.com:1085> 10
>>>> 
>>>> I have added the application server host and the application to java 
>>>> monitor on the web server and it all looks good.
>>>> 
>>>> I start up the remote application from the webserver javamonitor, but when 
>>>> I try to reach the app using the webserver URL, it says application not 
>>>> found.  However, if I try to access the application by going straight to 
>>>> the application server URL, it works.  (I do have apache setup on the 
>>>> application server as well).
>>>> 
>>>> I tested the 2001 and 1085 ports using telnet from the web server to the 
>>>> application server, and both ports are open.
>>>> 
>>>> One thing that isn’t clear in the wiki instructions is what the WOHost 
>>>> parameters should be set to on the app server machine.  I set them to the 
>>>> app server itself’s address, and it works with a local instance of 
>>>> Apache/JavaMonitor, but should I keep them set to this when I want to run 
>>>> them as remote applications from the webserver?
>>>> 
>>>> If that’s not it, any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If it's not a firewall issue, it might be a DNS issue if you are using host 
>>> names.  If memory serves then use the WOHost parameter as the hostname you 
>>> use in JavaMonitor. If you have multiple IP addresses you'll need to check 
>>> if everyone is listing on the right socket, check with lsof -i tcp:1085 or 
>>> lsof -i tcp:2001
>> I can definitely telnet from the head machine to both port 2001 and 1085 on 
>> the app server.  WOHost in the respective wotaskd property files on each 
>> server matches the respective host in JavaMonitor .  Also, reverse DNS 
>> lookups are correct for both machines.
>>> 
>>> Make sure there is only one JavaMonior running, usually on the head node. 
>>> One wotaskd on each server and only one apache web server - the head node.
>> JavaMonitor is only running on the head node.  Each server has a wotaskd 
>> running, and apache is only running on the head node.
>>> 
>>> Try to completely set up one host only, so no www2 server anywhere - not in 
>>> JavaMonitor nor WebObjectsConfig. First use localhost and make sure the app 
>>> is working.
>> Everything works fine on the head node, which is running on instance of the 
>> application, and all WOHost parameters and specified JavaMonitor hosts are 
>> using domain name, NOT localhost.
>>> 
>>> Then use the servers' IP address, at this point you can't use 'localhost' 
>>> anymore anywhere. Make sure your app is still working. 
>> The head node is working using the domain name that comes up on a reverse 
>> lookup of the machine IP address.
>> 
>>> After that add the other host to WebObjectsConfig and JavaMonitor using the 
>>> IP addresses (avoiding any DNS issues). Double check the syntax on that 
>>> line. JavaMonitor should say that both hosts are available.
>> Done, again using domain name that comes up on reverse host lookup of the 
>> machine IP, e.g. netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info 
>> <http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info/>
>> host 208.52.189.44
>> 44.189.52.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
>> netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info 
>> <http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info/>.
>>> 
>> JavaMonitor on the head machine does say both hosts are available.
>> 
>>> If you make changes in JavaMonitor to the configuration, make sure you see 
>>> the SiteConfig.xml file change on both servers (usually in 
>>> /Library/WebObjects/Configuration).
>> I did have to do a Synchronize Host to get both SiteConfig.xml files in 
>> agreement as to the URL to Adaptor setting.  It originally was pointing to 
>> itself.  However even after doing the sync, it’s still exhibiting the same 
>> behavior.
>> 
>>> 
>>> If both servers are talking to each other, add your application in 
>>> JavaMonitor and add one instance for each host. Then try to turn them on 
>>> and off and watch the processes on each of the hosts start and stop. 
>> JavaMonitor is able to wotaskd on both servers and can start and stop 
>> application instances on each server.  So, everything looks normal except 
>> the head node’s apache/WOAdaptor is not able to successfully invoke the 
>> instance on the secondary node to serve application pages.  If I set the 
>> instance on the head node to Reject new Sessions, apache returns that no 
>> Instance is Found.
>> 
>> So, I’m still pretty stumped on this.  In my apache.conf I have the 
>> following, which lists the two hosts.  It doesn’t have to be in any 
>> particular order does it?
>> WebObjectsConfig 
>> http://netbrackets1.netbrackets.com:1085,http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info:1085
>>  
>> <http://netbrackets1.netbrackets.com:1085,http://netbrandeds-mini1.netbrandeds.info:1085>
>>  10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> BTW, you should be able to manage all instance nodes and instances 
>>> regardless of the web server. You can check the mechanics before you turn 
>>> on the site.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps. It's been a while since I've done this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> kib
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because 
>>> we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."
>>> Walt Disney
>>> 
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