Made my day, thanks! 🤣
> Am 13.02.2020 um 13:30 schrieb Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev > <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>: > > LOL!!!!!! > > > >> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss> >> >>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up. >>> >>> And what is PHBs? >>> >>> Gibi >>> >>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> My opinionated take is the following: >>>> >>>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under >>>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has >>>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market >>>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still >>>> cling to .war deployment. >>>> >>>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to >>>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot. >>>> >>>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not >>>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in >>>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a >>>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of >>>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a >>>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in >>>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator. >>>> >>>> So you decide :) >>>> >>>> Andrus >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting… >>>>> >>>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss, >>>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc.. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which >>>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a >>>>> team... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>>>>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It >>>>>> gives you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to >>>>>> assemble various components together (and also modularity, dependency >>>>>> injection, consistent configuration and a large collection of >>>>>> ready-to-use modules). The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do >>>>>> whatever. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and >>>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically >>>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev >>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other >>>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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