Thanks for this Lon. As I begin contemplating a move from WO -> Cayenne, I’m really appreciating hearing what folks are using from a front-end perspective. Wicket looks like a pretty interesting one and from a familiarity perspective may be the best I’ve seen coming from a WO background.
Since I haven’t made the leap I don’t know how folks are binding various front-end technologies, like angular etc., to a ORM backend. I’m assuming by moving toward web api’s. From a non-familiarity perspective (and focused more on broadening skillsets), I’m thinking of looking at Node.js to leverage ORM experience but also branch more into front-ends the way the kids are doing it. I don’t expect many from the WO army have gone that direction but curious to hear of any experiences. Tim UCLA GSE&IS > On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Lon Varscsak via Webobjects-dev > <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > We've settled on Apache Wicket (apps are being re-written from WO) with > Apache Cayenne (EOF-like but more modern). I love both, I would be sad if I > had to use a different toolset. > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:14 AM Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev > <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > wrote: > Hi > > And about wo components framework ? > > What are you using with Bootique ? > > Jérémy > >> Le 13 févr. 2020 à 23:08, Matthew Ness via Webobjects-dev >> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a >> écrit : >> >> >> I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Bootique. >> >> We've had various types of Bootique apps in production for years now to >> great success, some with the Cayenne module directly derived from older WO >> apps/dbs, some communicating with existing WO apps, others simply processing >> tasks. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Matt >> http://logicsquad.net <http://logicsquad.net/> >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 11:25 PM, Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev wrote: >>> My opinionated take is the following: >>> >>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under >>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has >>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market >>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still >>> cling to .war deployment. >>> >>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to >>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot. >>> >>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not >>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in >>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a >>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of >>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a >>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in >>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator. >>> >>> So you decide :) >>> >>> Andrus >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting… >>>> >>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss, >>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc.. >>>> >>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which >>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a >>>> team... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>>>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/> >>>>> >>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives >>>>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble >>>>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection, >>>>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules). >>>>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever. >>>>> >>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and >>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically >>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI. >>>>> >>>>> Andrus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other >>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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