Hi Francois! > On May 3, 2024, at 20:57, Francois BIENTZ <f.bie...@laposte.net> wrote: > > Hi Hugi > > Ah yes the missing "natures" alert can be stopped in the Eclipses > preferences .
Ah, excellent. I guess we should really just fix that thing with WO requiring that nature… I somehow doubt cease-and-desist orders will start streaming in from Apple if we decompile NSStandardProjectBundle in ERFoundation, change that nature string and just drop it into Wonder. > I have to learn lots of things from maven before being able to use your > Wonder-slim. Don't hesitate to ask if you hit problems. The transition has usually been easy, and I think the community has already bumped into all the potentially sharp corners and knows the solutions. Here's a transition guide that Paul has contributed as well (and that's been on it's way to the Wiki for years now). https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/3c269a3196d0c4f2da486f1109c16d42 > Thank you for your new link to "Let’s set it up". > > If I understand well , you use Wonder-slim (Wo and Wonder parts) for the web > parts and Cayenne replaces EOF. Yes, I use WO/Slim for all web work. And if I need to speak to a DB and can choose the library to use, I usually use Cayenne. Cheers, - hugi > > Francois > >> Le 1 mai 2024 à 23:38, Francois BIENTZ <f.bie...@laposte.net> a écrit : >> >> Hi Hugi >> >> Thank you >> When I import wonder-slim in eclipse I get the "your IDE is missing natures >> to properly support your project " >> In your wonder-slim README the link after "Let’s set it up" seems broken. >> May be is something wrong in my Wo / Maven configuration. >> I can’t find the testapp in the repository to "play around ". >> >> Francois >> >>> Le 1 mai 2024 à 16:31, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Ricardo, >>> >>> https://github.com/undur/wonder-slim >>> >>> in short, it's a fork of Wonder that removes everything except >>> ERExtensions, WOOGNL and JavaWOExtensions (which are all combined in a >>> single framework, since they're usually all required and present in WO >>> projects) plus Ajax.framework. So basically, a small subset of Project >>> Wonder. >>> >>> It also: >>> >>> * Has >a lot< of stuff removed, reorganized, refactored and cleaned up to >>> make it cleaner, nicer and easier to understand and maintain >>> * Based on JDK 21 >>> * Has all logging moved to slf4j-api and log4j specific stuff moved to a >>> separate framework (which replaces log4j with reload4j). >>> * Replaces proprietary APIs and library usage with the standard methods >>> we've gained from modern JDKs (so the only 3rd party dependency it pulls in >>> is slf4j-api) >>> * Assumes it's running on the last released version of WO (5.4.3), removing >>> workarounds for older versions >>> * And a lot more… That's just off the top of my head >>> >>> I initially started it mostly as an experiment to learn Wonder's insides, >>> see how it could be cleaned up, better organized and even split up, >>> planning to eventually backport some of the cleanup work. But eventually it >>> just got out of hand and I now just use it in all of my projects :). >>> >>> A point to keep in mind is that it also removes everything related to EOF, >>> since in my world EOF is legacy (and yes, please don't be insulted, I'm >>> well aware that that's a subjective view from a Cayenne user. For actual >>> EOF users I know EOF is fine and in full use). But that means — if you're >>> currently using Wonder/EOF in your projects, I would not recommend Slim >>> since you're probably dependent on both Wonder's APIs, patches and fixes to >>> EOF. >>> >>> A side project was splitting off the deployment tools into a separate >>> project (where I haven't done as much work yet, but that's soon to come). >>> Just feels like these tools deserve their own effort. >>> >>> https://github.com/undur/wonder-deployment >>> >>> All in all, this is really something of a niche project and I wouldn't >>> consider it essential for anyone currently using Wonder. But for someone >>> like me, who uses WO only for it's web framework features, and just wants >>> some of the basics and fixes Wonder adds in that area, it's turned out nice. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - hugi >>> >>> >>>>> On May 1, 2024, at 13:54, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I’m just curious, what is Wonder-slim? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Ricardo >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 4:57 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Francois, >>>>> I'm pretty sure I'm the only one using it at the moment :). If you're >>>>> considering using it, I'd be more than happy to start making actual >>>>> releases. As the only user, I've been lazy enough to just work from >>>>> snapshot releases which is pretty far from best practice, so it's about >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - hugi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 22:06, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone using Wonder-slim ? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hugi%40karlmenn.is >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to h...@karlmenn.is >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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