Hi Hugi, Never mind, I just imported the other ng projects into Eclipse and the problem went away.
Thanks, Ricardo Parada > On Sep 26, 2025, at 5:31 PM, Ricardo Parada <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Hugi, > > I cloned ng-objects and imported the test app into Eclipse. Maven is showing > wiggly red lines for the two dependencies with groupID is.rebbi in the > pom.xml. Do you know what I need to do so that it finds those dependencies? > > Regards, > Ricardo Parada > > > > >> On Sep 23, 2025, at 10:42 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ricardo, it's very encouraging to get feedback like this. >> >> And fun hearing about your history. You predate even me :). This really was >> amazing technology back in the day — and still is, I think! And it feels a >> little like our way of doing stuff is gaining some traction these days, at >> least on the web development side, as many seem to be re-discovering the >> power of simplicity. >> (won't mention the EOF/ORM part though, Cayenne honestly feels like >> something of a light in the darkness with the current state of java ORMs, so >> we've still got plenty to show the young'uns there) >> >> Regarding .wod files; the parser in ng is really mainly a refactored WOOgnl, >> so it works fine with .wo templates as well. >> >> With regard to projects in "undur", note that projects like "modulo" are >> still somewhat experimental. With the recent discussions it's now at the top >> of my list to clarify their state a bit in the next few days. And I guess I >> should start doing actual versioning and making releases (darn them good >> practices). >> >> As for the "team"… I want to clarify that the people displayed as >> contributors on GitHub, at least the wonder-slim repository, are there >> because it's a fork of the original Project Wonder, so their contributions >> are entirely from Wonder's original commit history. So please, don't blame >> them for the horrible things I'm doing to their software! Honestly, all of >> them have done a lot more for WO than I ever have or will, I'm more or less >> just moving their code around. >> >> Cheers, >> - hugi >> >> >>> On 23 Sep 2025, at 13:10, Ricardo Parada <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning Hugi, >>> >>> I just watched your “ng preview” video on YouTube—really impressive work by >>> you and the rest of the contributors. >>> >>> I’ve been working with this technology since the NeXT days, back when Craig >>> Federighi was on the EOF team. I was even beta testing EOF 2.0, using >>> EOF/AppKit at the time, before we eventually adopted WebObjects. >>> >>> I’ve been with WebObjects from the beginning, when WebScript and >>> Objective-C were the primary languages, and later transitioned our projects >>> from Objective-C to Java. At some point along the way we adopted Wonder >>> mainly to pick up fixes to the existing WebObjects and other functionality. >>> >>> I’m always interested in alternatives that feel familiar to WO but can >>> adapt more easily to the constantly evolving Java world. That’s one of the >>> reasons I’m also looking at Cayenne as an alternative to EOF. >>> >>> I didn’t notice an equivalent of a .wod file in the demo, but overall it’s >>> very impressive and promising work. >>> >>> By the way, I recognize many of the contributors on GitHub—it’s great to >>> see such a strong team behind these projects. I’m also interested in the >>> other projects you’ve published, including Wonder-slim, Parsley, modulo, >>> and vermilingua-maven-plugin. Parsley will likely be the first one we >>> adopt, as a replacement for WOOgnl in our existing apps. >>> >>> Thank you again for all of this work—it’s really exciting to see these >>> developments. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ricardo Parada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2025, at 4:07 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>> >>>> yeah, in short, I love WO so I've been slooowly working on a web framework >>>> inspired by it in the past few years, keeping APIs similar where it >>>> matters to make transition of my existing stuff easy, but still a clean >>>> room implementation (well … whatever "clean room" means when you're >>>> creating something inspired by software you've been using for 27 years — >>>> and for 10 of those, hacking it up to keep it working. Don't think I'll >>>> sound good in court. But no copying of code. Although AribaWeb helped a >>>> lot. And WOOgnl got totally ripped off — thanks Mike! :) >>>> >>>> And yes, a lot of the effort on ng leaks back into WO through the projects >>>> in github.com/undur , like Parsley. There's a lot of "crossover" in the >>>> work on the two and I have a large number of WO projects running, some of >>>> them large client projects that won't be migrated any time soon, so I need >>>> WO fresh and chipper for at least the next couple of years. >>>> >>>> Obligatoriy caveat; as I mentioned before, even if essentially usable and >>>> working, ng is still at an unstable stage design wise and has little to no >>>> documentation, so I currently only recommend it for the curious and brave. >>>> But the first prerelease due soon should clarify the situation a little. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - hugi >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 22 Sep 2025, at 23:24, Ricardo Parada <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Hugi, >>>>> >>>>> ng-objects sounds very interesting. I had not heard of it (I think) until >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> Is it basically an implementation of the most popular stuff in WebObjects >>>>> (such as the application class, session class, components and templates, >>>>> dynamic elements, component actions) with Parsley for the templates, >>>>> inline bindings support, short tags, all rolled into one and open source? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Ricardo Parada >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2025, at 10:08 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Francois, >>>>>> >>>>>> It's built using ng-objects and Cayenne. The sources for the site are >>>>>> here: https://github.com/undur/whoacommunity . >>>>>> >>>>>> I originally created the site to host the WOCommunity Slack channel's >>>>>> archives (back when Slack decided deleting all our old data was a nice >>>>>> move). Recently added the "blog" on the front page, mostly so I can stop >>>>>> flooding the Slack channel with every thought in my head. Besides, Slack >>>>>> isn't a good place for content since everything written there eventually >>>>>> disappears. >>>>>> >>>>>> Planning on allowing comments on the articles. And if anyone else wants >>>>>> to be able to publish "articles", I'd be happy to add that functionality. >>>>>> >>>>>> Contemplating more stuff — ideas and pull requests welcomed. Sorry it's >>>>>> written in ng and not WO, but that's where I'm headed. My WO projects >>>>>> like wonder-slim and Parsley, although practical in general, are >>>>>> partially a stepping stone to assist with that migration. But I imagine >>>>>> that process will take at least a couple of years so you won't be rid of >>>>>> me quite yet :). >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> - hugi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2025, at 13:09, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just discovered this site >>>>>>> Is https://www.whoacommunity.com build with wonder-slim and Cayenne ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> franc >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hugi%40karlmenn.is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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