On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:28 PM, John Plocher wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Elaine Ashton
<[email protected]> wrote:
you may remember the raving anti-semitic spammer who
I'm not certain how a spanner could take advantage of a list's
reliance on @contributors or @core-contributors in a way that they
couldn't easily do without those lists. They certainly couldn't get
*their* address on one of those lists, and I'm certain we don't have
to worry about our own C's and CC's being spammers as well.
If you give a list of addresses carte blanche to post and cross-post
to any list, all it takes is someone with enough knowhow to forge the
headers and spam the lists in one very easy action. Given that the
list of grants is publicly viewable, it wouldn't be much of an effort
for anyone to do. With some of the activity I see daily in the logs, I
do not believe that it's outside the realm of the probable.
While I think it is pretty two-faced to claim we are a community, and
yet do everything we can to show we don't trust the members of that
community, the status quo is so bad that opening the door to a subset
(C/CC, but not P) is a huge step forward in my mind.
It gets fairly tedious explaining why the wildcards are not welcome
only to continue to receive the rather tired hail mary pass of being
anti-community for doing so. Yes, it's a lack of trust, but not in the
manner which you suggest.
Please?
If you can get Mr. Schwartz or someone thereabouts on the org chart to
personally tell me that my priority is to make it more convenient for
those who cannot wait 12 hours or less for an email to reach the list
when they haven't subscribed and/or the list moderator can't be
bothered to approve the email in a more timely fashion than I can
provide, I'll be happy to reconsider, otherwise, it's my job to keep
spam to a minimum and the mail flowing.
Also, as I've said a number of times before, at some point this sort
of functionality may be addressed, but it's a fairly low priority in
the current set of issues our team is currently dealing with.
e.
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