On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 13:15, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Sorry for another UserKit related self reply, but it seems, that
> UserKit isn't used here very much, so I'll probably stop trying to use
> it as well. Nevertheless, the problem I had wasn't a bug or such,
> it's just one of the many things, that aren't implemented yet in
> UserKit. 

Yes -- I'm the one that pointed out that our silence is mostly due to
ignorance.  Every so often UserKit comes up on the list, and no one ever
replies, because we have nothing useful to offer on the subject.

I also agree a user framework would be good.  UserKit is rather opaque
to me, though, and it's been around a long time without getting
better.   Maybe all it needs to get better is developer documentation --
but it really *needs* that documentation.  I suspect it is using an OO
style that Chuck took from WebObjects, and which is largely foreign to
most of us here.  Especially the use of mix-ins is hard to understand
from the outside.

I know UserKit is being used by some people, but AFAIK it's only being
used by some old timers -- Chuck, maybe Geoff, any others?  Unless it
changes, I think we should split it off from Webware -- on a practical
level it causes new users more problems than it is solving.

  Ian



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