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Fred, thank you very much, and I absolutely agree with all of your points
 
Regards,
 
Jacob
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From: Fred Langston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:59 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Security Workgroup List
Cc: Johnson, Ed
Subject: RE: Risk Assessments

HI Karen,
 
I have to take issue with your closing statement.  As someone that's been doing risk assessments for decades and HIPAA risk assessments/risk analyses for over 5 years, I truly can't imagine anyone posting much about methodologies that hasn't been used, published, and considered standard practice for almost forever on this subject.  Just posting to this list cannot connote ownership of intellectual property or imply what fair use of that property is.  If someone reposts the wealth of material I've posted to this list and many others about risk assessment methodologies, then your statement implies I can no longer use the material I've developed myself and freely submitted just because it was posted here.  And that's plain wrong.  Not to mention that it's *conducting* the risk assessment that's the really hard work, not just developing the methodology. 
 
There seems to be a lot of consultant bashing on this list, which I believe is misplaced.  We're not here to replace people, we're here to assist and augment organizations that can not or do not want to hire staff on a permanent basis.  The value of knowing how *many* organizations conduct their HIPAA compliance efforts is difficult to overestimate, and no amount of list reading can replace that experience.   It would be nice if people posting to the list try to maintain a professional respect for one another.
 

Fred Langston, CISSP
  Senior Principal Consultant
  W: 206.903.8147 x223 F: 206.903.1862 M: 425.765.3330
  Seattle, WA  www.Guardent.com
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Subject: Re: Risk Assessments

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