Everytime I get a minute to sit down and open the laptop and read up on 
what's available, I change my mind. I'm back on the OpenWeatherMap thought 
now because of the localization and languages it offers. 

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 4:47:42 PM UTC-4, gary....@gmail.com wrote:
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> If units aren’t an issue, then in the infamous words of Alfred E. Neuman, 
> what, me worry?
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> *From:* weewx...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <weewx...@googlegroups.com 
> <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *steeple ian
> *Sent:* Friday, April 3, 2020 11:37 AM
> *To:* weewx...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
> *Subject:* Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky
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> Gary,
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> Ok have a look here: -
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> https://claydonsweather.org.uk
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> The base units are set in weewx.conf to METRICWX. The json data from WU is 
> coming as US, DarkSky as METRIC. The skin is displaying U.K. units which is 
> Metric with mph. Click on the F button too right and watch what happens to 
> the units including those of the forecasts. Go to the menu accessed by 
> clicking top left. You will see toggles for various unit systems. The data 
> does not change, it is just converted on the fly. So I don’t see units 
> being an issue.
>
> Ian
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> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 16:05, G Hammer <gary....@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
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> Metric is not used in the US would be the problem.
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 10:37 AM steeple ian <steep...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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> Quote from yr.no website: -
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> *"A new Yr API is on the way!*
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> We are working on a new and modern API, that we plan to release some time 
> in the winter 2019. Make sure you visit this site to keep posted!"
>
> I am not sure why metric only is so much of a problem anyway, but maybe 
> that will be fixed in the new API anyway.
>
> From a personal point of view, I use forecasting services from YR DarkSky, 
> WU, and UK Metoffice. I know it can be subjective but for my location YR is 
> by far the most accurate.
>
> Ian
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:17 PM Pat <p...@obrienphoto.net <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
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> yr.no isn't commercially owned, so the theory is they won't get bought 
> out or go away. They're owned by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation 
> and the Norwegian Meteorological Institute. That said, it's only in 
> metric, does not have weather alerts and is in XML format only. 
>
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>
> The pro is that they don't seem at risk of being purchased and going away. 
> The con is it may not be a good fit for how the skin is being used. 
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> On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:01:39 AM UTC-4, G Hammer wrote:
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> I'd say OWM, simply because I see no way to get anything except metric/C 
> from yr.no
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> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 9:11:43 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote:
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> I'm sure the Belchertown skin could benefit from the forecasts plugin, but 
> Belchertown does more than that. It shows weather alerts for your location 
> as well as current conditions. The forecasting plugin doesn't provide those 
> 2 bits. For that you need a service, and if you're getting info from the 
> service (in my opinion), one stop shop for it (get the forecast too). 
>
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> As for maintaining a plugin base for each region/location, that's not 
> something I can develop or support right now. The JSON would have to be 
> formatted exactly for each service in order to support the current way of 
> updates. Again, this is a simple task for 1 provider who has all this data 
> for worldwide regions
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> I understand that OWM could become the next DarkSky but I think it's the 
> best option for what we have right now. The free tier should be able to 
> provide enough data to replace DarkSky. 
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> It's just a matter of time on my end.
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> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-4, William Burton wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 4:34:46 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote:
>
> how about implementing a design that allows for weather forecast 
> extensions/plugins. then regional plugins can be built and allow the user 
> to choose the weather forecast service that is best for them. this way you 
> don't need a single service that works for everyone. it can be very 
> difficult to find a service that works everywhere and if you can find one 
> it may result in a low bar terms of quality and features from the service.
>
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>
> I was thinking the exact same thing as it doesn't make sense for every 
> skin author to have to implement forecasting from scratch. There are many 
> API's and there won't be one that works for everyone everywhere.
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>
> The weewx-forecast extension (
> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-forecast), already handles the 
> following weather forecasting services:
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>   US National Weather Service (NWS)
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>   the weather underground (WU)
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>   open weathermap (OWM)
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>   UK Met Office (UKMO)
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>   Aeris Weather
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>   World Weather Online (WWO)
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>   Dark Sky (DS)
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>   Zambretti
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> The extension also handles tide predictions using xtide.
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> My thought was to enhance the weewx-forecast extension to:
>
> · Output a generic JSON file that can be loaded via Ajax into a theme. As 
> much as possible, the JSON would be generated in a manner that's consistent 
> across different API implementations to make it easier to incorporate into a 
> skin.
>
> · Output one or more include files that can be included into other skins.
>
> Skins like Belchertown can incorporate this output using either method as 
> appropriate. The end result is it would be far easier for skin maintainers to 
> expand forecasting options.
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>
> The benefit to this approach is the ability to support many more options for 
> forecasting more widely. However, a small drawback is users of WeeWX will 
> have to install another extension and configure it in addition to the 
> selected skin.
>
>  
>
> -Bill
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