Gary,  Thanks for your research on this.  I didn't know it there was some 
way of calculating this data in weewx and posting that I was missing.  I'm 
attempting to like the AerisPulse app but when the conditions they report 
to me are ~15 degrees different, it's difficult to do.  On the morning of 
January 30th, my station was reporting a current temp of -15.2, Aeris was 
reporting -2 for the same zip code.  It's hard to support or recommend an 
app with that much error.

And thanks for the explaination on the missing posts.  I kept getting a 
message that the post was deleted as soon as I posted it.  I ended up 
sending it through email.


On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 11:39:41 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:

> Oh, and I forgot to mention. Your missing six messages found their way 
> into the spam folder, Groups seems to have a habit of randomly doing this 
> sometimes. I don't know why, especially when your seventh attempt worked! 
> In any case I deleted them, could not see the point of letting them through 
> now.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 14:36:18 UTC+10 gjr80 wrote:
>
>> So the question started as why you weren't seeing your data on an Aeris 
>> app and the answer was that only those stations that provide sky coverage 
>> were showing their data on the Aeris app. Subsequently, your question to us 
>> was how to I submit sky coverage data to PWS Weather. Fair question given 
>> the AerisWeather response, but as explained earlier this is not possible. 
>> The issue of a missing link raised by subsequent posts I suspect is largely 
>> irrelevant, the context of that para from AerisWeather Support was that as 
>> a PWS contributor you have free access to your data via the AerisWeather 
>> API. Somehow I don't think that was intended as a solution to getting your 
>> data to appear on the Aeris app but rather giving you a means to access 
>> your data (just like the WeatherUnderground API gives you access to your 
>> data) once you register on AerisWeather and link to your PWS account.
>>
>> In terms of sky coverage I did a bit of browsing on the PWS Weather 
>> station map last night and found that when looking at the METAR station at 
>> our international airport there was indeed a sky coverage plot. When I 
>> looked at PWS stations nearby the airport they too had a sky coverage plot 
>> and it was identical in every respect to the METAR sky coverage plot. 
>> However, once I was too far away from the METAR station (some 15-20km as 
>> the crow flies) the PWS stations all had no sky coverage plot. I think this 
>> tends to indicate that PWS stations on the station map are in fact 
>> obtaining sky coverage by virtue of their proximity to a METAR station 
>> rather than providing the data themselves. PWS Weather/Aeris may well 
>> mention this somewhere but I am yet to find it. 
>>
>> I think in terms of WeeWX and PWS Weather there is nothing further to be 
>> done. The WeeWX PWS Weather uploader uploads the correct data, albeit with 
>> no data in the 'weather' field (if someone comes along with an extension to 
>> WeeWX that includes suitable data for the 'weather' field then we can 
>> certainly extend the PWS Weather uploader to include that data). 
>>
>> Gary
>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 20:41:18 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the response I got from Aeris when I asked them why I wasn't 
>>> seeing my own data in "Current Conditions" in the AerisPulse app:
>>>
>>> *****************************************************
>>>     
>>> Nate Flohrs (AerisWeather Support)
>>> Feb 1, 2021, 9:40 AM CST
>>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> Thanks for reaching out to AerisWeather!  For the purposes of providing 
>>> complete weather data, the Aeris Pulse app is currently designed to only 
>>> return stations that provide sky coverage information.  In your location, 
>>> the nearest station that provides those details is several miles away, 
>>> which is why you are seeing those results.  
>>>
>>> If you haven't already, you may want to go to settings > data options 
>>> and select "All" as the observations source.  This will ensure that the 
>>> closest station that provides sky data will be utilized.  
>>>
>>> There is an alternative solution that may help you access the data 
>>> coming specifically from your station.  Because you are a PWS contributor, 
>>> you are eligible for the contributor plan from AerisWeather.  It allows you 
>>> to access weather data through our API for no cost while your station is 
>>> sending information to our servers.  You can find more details here.  
>>>
>>> Hopefully that helps to explain the behavior you are seeing!  If you 
>>> have any additional questions, please let me know.  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nate
>>> AerisWeather Support Team
>>> https://support.aerisweather.com
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:11:44 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should add my comments re METAR is my supposition; the observation 
>>>> related fields (as distinct from API keys, date-times, software name etc) 
>>>> in the PWS Weather upload string format are:
>>>>
>>>> wind direction
>>>> wind speed
>>>> wind gust speed
>>>> temperature
>>>> hour rainfall
>>>> day rainfall
>>>> month rainfall
>>>> year rainfall
>>>> barometric pressure
>>>> dew point
>>>> humidity
>>>> solar radiation
>>>> UV
>>>>
>>>> and of course the previously mentioned 'weather' field. Provided your 
>>>> station has the appropriate sensor WeeWX will upload all of these to PWS 
>>>> Weather with the exception of month rainfall and year rainfall.
>>>>
>>>> Of course the other possibility is that PWS Weather could be deriving 
>>>> 'sky cover' itself though, I see no obvious source in the above fields 
>>>> though. Probably a question for PWS Weather, and if their answer is 'your 
>>>> station needs to upload it' then ask for some documentation; details of 
>>>> the 
>>>> field name, content, format etc because it does not appear in their PWS 
>>>> upload documentation they sent to me.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 12:38:02 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the explanation.  I incorrectly thought that cloudcover 
>>>>> was the data expected by pwsweather.  Now that I see that it is more 
>>>>> involved, I will wait patiently.  The reason for my interest is that the 
>>>>> AerisPulse app gives me data from a station many miles from me when I am 
>>>>> reporting data to them.  Their explanation is that they only use data 
>>>>> from 
>>>>> stations that report Sky Cover data.  All others are ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, thanks for the explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short answer is the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader does not support any 
>>>>>> form of 'sky cover percentage'. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In looking at the upload string format recently provided by 
>>>>>> PWSWeather the only field I can see that might support 'sky cover 
>>>>>> percentage' is the 'weather' field which is described as ' Current 
>>>>>> weather 
>>>>>> or sky conditions using standard METAR abbreviations and intensity (e.g. 
>>>>>> -RA, +SN, SKC, etc.)'. I expect you could include cloud coverage in 
>>>>>> octas 
>>>>>> in this somehow, but I am no METAR expert. The WeeWX PWSWeather uploader 
>>>>>> does not support the weather field and there is so simple config change 
>>>>>> available to the user make it do so. It would involve writing code. I do 
>>>>>> have a task to review the various uploaders included in the WeeWX core, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> that is somewhat on the back burner at present and since WeeWX does not 
>>>>>> provide/generate METAR info per se, I am not sure whether that review 
>>>>>> would 
>>>>>> result in the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader supporting the 'weather' field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Vince said I am intrigued as to what data it is that you want to 
>>>>>> upload. I am not aware of the GW1000 emitting any sort of cloud cover 
>>>>>> data, 
>>>>>> either via its API or through any of its weather service upload formats. 
>>>>>> You mention cloudbase, WeeWX will certainly calculate cloudbase provided 
>>>>>> the pre-requisite data is available (fields outTemp and outHumidity) but 
>>>>>> cloudbase is only a theoretical value for the cloud height; it does not 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> any way relate to percentage cloud cover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 10:30:50 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know.  I don't think it has anything to do with 
>>>>>>> Belchertown.  pwsweather is looking for sky cover percentage.  I know 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> a few stations report this and I'm wondering how it is done.  All other 
>>>>>>> data is reporting.  My data is calculating cloud base however, 
>>>>>>> pwsweather 
>>>>>>> is looking for a percentage.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:59:44 PM UTC-5 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 1:35:41 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>> bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m sending data to pwsweather.com using a GW1000 and I can’t 
>>>>>>>>> figure out how to send Sky Cover data.  conf file below
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which element in which database has that data to begin with ?
>>>>>>>> I'm sure not seeing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you sure it's not something calculated magically by Belchertown 
>>>>>>>> and not actually saved in a db by weewx ?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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