It will get to the stage where we will have to build our own hardware.
Maybe we could build a weewx weather station and sell them? Don't ask me 
though I can't solder to save my life. 

On Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 09:26:12 UTC+10 Tom Keffer wrote:

> The general message is that the hardware manufacturers want to own your 
> data. It's getting harder and harder to gain access to it. 
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 4:22 PM Greg from Oz <ubea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been using a USB fineoffset device for over 10 years and it works 
>> OK for what I am doing, but the newer ones don't have the USB port on the 
>> console anymore.
>>
>> https://weather.ubeaut.work/
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 09:18:36 UTC+10 John Kline wrote:
>>
>>> Previously, one had to spend an extra $225 for the USB data logger.  
>>> Now, one has to buy an Envoy ($235) and the USB data logger.
>>>
>>> I suppose the worry is that Davis will stop selling the previous console 
>>> and the envoy.
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2023, at 4:07 PM, Greg from Oz <ubea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Looks like I won't be buying one of those!
>>> That is nearly as bad as paying subscription to use software.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 02:55:32 UTC+10 Bob Rose wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am in the same boat. I dropped a note to Davis support, and they 
>>>> confirmed that there is no local data available on the 6313. To get you 
>>>> data back you will need to purchase it back from Davis.
>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:14:36 PM UTC-7 vince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Secondary might be poorly worded.  I think somebody suggested on 
>>>>> wxforum.net the folks with old consoles could still talk to new 
>>>>> sensors via their old dataloggers as always, and 'also' set up the new 
>>>>> 6313 
>>>>> gateway/console to listen to the sensor's channel and feed Davis etc. if 
>>>>> so 
>>>>> inclined.  So you could get the new console with data that way while 
>>>>> still 
>>>>> running the old console we're all familiar with.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also noted in the manual a bit back that the new console lasts under 
>>>>> a day through a power outage, while the old consoles last many days.   
>>>>> Manual is at (here) 
>>>>> <https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0515/5992/3873/files/07395_402_WeatherLink_Console_UG__Rev_D.pdf?v=1687998850>
>>>>>  and 
>>>>> the wxforum.net Davis group has lots of discussion about the new 
>>>>> console.  Doesn't seem like too many people are happy so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:49:39 PM UTC-7 John Kline wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Davis still sells the old console and logger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vince, I’m not sure what primary and secondary means.  They are all 
>>>>>> independent of one another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:41 AM, vince <vince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe there are some posts suggesting the old console as the 
>>>>>> primary one and the new one as a secondary works well if you can 
>>>>>> leverage 
>>>>>> your old console and logger. You might want to give that a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-7 paul bennett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Vince.
>>>>>>> Indeed, WXForum <https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=45624.0> 
>>>>>>> agrees that the new 6313 console has no provision for a 3rd party API, 
>>>>>>> either through the WiFi or the USB interface.  I wonder how long my old 
>>>>>>> console will hold up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 7:40:47 PM UTC-6 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you set the ip address of the console ?  Lets see your driver 
>>>>>>> stanza.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might ask on wxforum.net in the Davis forum there.  My hazy 
>>>>>>> reading in the past about the new console makes me wonder if it's even 
>>>>>>> possible with the new Console/logger product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 3:40:14 PM UTC-7 paul bennett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 12-year old Vantage Pro 2 got destroyed by hail recently, so the 
>>>>>>> insurance company bought me a new one. I now have the updated Davis 
>>>>>>> 6313 
>>>>>>> console that connects via WiFi.  Unfortunately, I don't see how to 
>>>>>>> interface the new console to weewx. The old console had the USB logger, 
>>>>>>> which worked fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried changing the interface type from "serial" to "ethernet" in 
>>>>>>> weewx.conf, but it complains it can't connect to port 22222. Which is 
>>>>>>> no 
>>>>>>> doubt true. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it just a different port, or is it something far worse?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> -paul bennett-
>>>>>>>
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