Sorry for this late question:

I went through this performance issue also and to have an apples to apples 
comparison I set up weewx 4.10.2 and 5.0.2 on the same computer and had it 
running with a large db (280MB). 

For 4.10.2 file generation takes around 0.3s, for 5.0.2 it takes 13s (on a 
well-equipped PC, on my Raspi-type system it is >100s).

Following the explanation from Tom Keffer ("... In V4, this would not have 
even been attempted." ...) I would expect that in the output for v4.10.2 
some data should be missing / empty or different compared to the 5.0.2 
output. But this I do not see: Can somebody point me to the data I should 
compare for this?

WindnFog schrieb am Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 um 14:14:08 UTC+1:

> Rewording Tom's post to align with one of my professors decades ago, "That 
> will work, but let's do it the right way." Using 'weectl database' 
> (followed by the proper parameters) is the right way. Humidex is now stored 
> in the database, and '$alltime.humidex.max' takes a split second to return 
> the correct result. My Rube Goldberg software machine has been dismantled.
>
> - Paul VE1DX
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:55:50 AM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>
>> I mean this in the gentlest way, but this is basically what the SQLite 
>> database is doing for you: saving various values in a file where they can 
>> be retrieved via a general query statement.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 6:16 AM WindnFog <foc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I encountered the same problem trying to calculate the all time humidex 
>>> in the index.html.tmpl template.  This was taking about 3 minutes on a Pi 
>>> 4. Rather than add humidex to the database (probably the best solution), I 
>>> calculated all-time humidex once a day using a small program and invoking 
>>> it with cron. I saved it in a text file that I could then use the Cheetah 
>>> include statement to read it into index.the html.tmpl template.  This runs 
>>> in 2 seconds on a Pi 4 and 1 second on a pi 5; if you have an algorithm for 
>>> appTemp, a similar approach might work.  I was not comfortable with 
>>> modifying the database because that's not my area of expertise:
>>>
>>> #!/usr/bin/env python3
>>> # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
>>>
>>> """
>>> Program:        WeeWX Humidex calculator
>>> Author:         Paul M Dunphy
>>> Date:           12 December 2023
>>> Version:        1.0.0
>>> Description:    This script sweeps through the Weewx database and 
>>> calculates the 
>>>                 derived parameter humidex for each record.  It then 
>>> returns the
>>>                 maximum humidex and the date/time when it occured.  This 
>>> takes
>>>                 about 1.5 seconds on a 900,000 record database as 
>>> opposed to 3.5
>>>                 minutes by the WeeWX system if the recommended aggregate 
>>> values
>>>                 are implemented in the Standard/index.html.tmpl file:
>>>                 
>>>                 $alltime.humidex.max ($alltime.humidex.max.degree_F) 
>>>                 $alltime.humidex.maxtime.format($ALLTIMEFMT)
>>>
>>>                 It's not clear why the weeWX system takes so long.  
>>> Possibly
>>>                 because it's doing many other things at the same time.  
>>>
>>>                 This runs on a Raspberry Pi 4B (4 GB Ram) using Debian 12
>>> """
>>>
>>> # Required Libraries
>>>
>>> import sqlite3
>>> import math
>>> from datetime import datetime
>>> import pytz
>>> from pytz import timezone
>>>
>>>
>>> def calculate_humidex(temperature, dewpoint):
>>>     # Constants for the formula
>>>     k = 273.15  # Conversion factor for Celsius to Kelvin
>>>
>>>     # Convert temperatures to Kelvin
>>>     temperature + k
>>>     dewpoint_k = dewpoint + k
>>>
>>>     # Calculate vapor pressure in hPa
>>>     vapor_pressure = 6.112 * math.exp(5417.7530 * ((1 / 273.16) - (1 / 
>>> dewpoint_k)))
>>>
>>>     # Humidex calculation
>>>     humidex = temperature + ((vapor_pressure - 10) * 0.5555)
>>>     return humidex
>>>
>>>
>>> def get_max_humidex(database_path):
>>>     # Connect to the WeeWX database
>>>     conn = sqlite3.connect(database_path)
>>>     cursor = conn.cursor()
>>>
>>>     # Query for temperature, dewpoint, and dateTime for all records
>>>     query = "SELECT outTemp, dewpoint, dateTime FROM archive"
>>>     cursor.execute(query)
>>>
>>>     # Variables to track the maximum humidex and its date
>>>     maximum_humidex = None
>>>     maximum_humidex_date = None
>>>
>>>     for row in cursor:
>>>         temperature, dewpoint, date_time = row
>>>         if temperature is not None and dewpoint is not None:
>>>             humidex = calculate_humidex(temperature, dewpoint)
>>>             if maximum_humidex is None or humidex > maximum_humidex:
>>>                 maximum_humidex = humidex
>>>                 maximum_humidex_date = date_time
>>>
>>>     conn.close()
>>>     return maximum_humidex, maximum_humidex_date
>>>
>>>
>>> def convert_utc_to_ast_adt(utc_datetime):
>>>     """
>>>     Convert a UTC datetime to AST or ADT depending on the date.
>>>
>>>     Parameters:
>>>     utc_datetime (datetime): UTC datetime object.
>>>
>>>     Returns:
>>>     datetime: Datetime object in AST or ADT.
>>>     """
>>>     # Define the time zone for AST/ADT
>>>     ast_tz = timezone('America/Halifax')
>>>
>>>     # Localize the UTC datetime to the AST/ADT timezone
>>>     local_datetime = ast_tz.normalize(utc_datetime.astimezone(ast_tz))
>>>
>>>     return local_datetime
>>>
>>>
>>> def format_date(unix_timestamp):
>>>     """
>>>     Format a UNIX timestamp into a human-readable string in AST or ADT.
>>>
>>>     Parameters:
>>>     unix_timestamp (int): UNIX timestamp.
>>>
>>>     Returns:
>>>     str: Formatted date string.
>>>     """
>>>     # Create a UTC datetime from the UNIX timestamp
>>>     utc_datetime = 
>>> datetime.utcfromtimestamp(unix_timestamp).replace(tzinfo=pytz.utc)
>>>
>>>     # Convert UTC to AST or ADT
>>>     local_datetime = convert_utc_to_ast_adt(utc_datetime)
>>>
>>>     # Format the local datetime
>>>     return local_datetime.strftime("%I:%M %p on %d %b %Y")
>>>
>>>
>>> db_path = '/home/pdunphy/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb'
>>> max_humidex, max_humidex_date = get_max_humidex(db_path)
>>>
>>> # Convert Humidex to Fahrenheit
>>> max_humidex_f = max_humidex * 9 / 5 + 32
>>>
>>> # Format and print the result
>>> print(f"{max_humidex:.1f} C ({max_humidex_f:.1f} F) at 
>>> {format_date(max_humidex_date)}")
>>>
>>> # Format the result
>>> output = f"{max_humidex:.1f} C ({max_humidex_f:.1f} F) at 
>>> {format_date(max_humidex_date)}"
>>>
>>> # Write the result to a file
>>> output_file_path = 
>>> '/home/pdunphy/weewx-data/skins/Standard/Standard_all_time_humidex.txt'
>>> with open(output_file_path, 'w') as file:
>>>     file.write(output)
>>>
>>> print(f"Output written to {output_file_path}") 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:12:14 PM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using Blaine's database, I was able to isolate the performance problems.
>>>>
>>>> It's in the template records/index.html.tmpl
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, apparent temperature (appTemp). It does not appear in the 
>>>> database, so a simple tag such as $alltime.appTemp.max requires searching 
>>>> the engine database, calculating apparent temperature for each record, 
>>>> then 
>>>> finding the max value.
>>>>
>>>> In V4, this would not have even been attempted.
>>>>
>>>> The solution is to add appTemp to the database. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 1:33 PM vince <vince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom - the NOAA stuff builds from this db ok for me v5 pip on pi3+.  
>>>>> The Seasons skin NOAA file for 2024-01 'is' being updated every 
>>>>> archive period.
>>>>> The historical files dating back to 2014 generated fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unrelated but interesting.....
>>>>>
>>>>>    - this db shows the Belchertown taking too long issue
>>>>>    - running htop I see it peg two cpus and StdReport aborts due to 
>>>>>    time vs. the Simulator 300 sec on a pi3+
>>>>>    - Belchertown 'always' takes longer than 300 secs and weewx always 
>>>>>    aborts due to StdReport not completing in 300 secs
>>>>>    - yet the same installation with 'my' db works fine with no 
>>>>>    issues, so it 'has' to be content of the db being used doesn't it ?
>>>>>    - I have been unable to get Belchertown to succeed even at 600 
>>>>>    secs archive period.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question - why would the db be 'locked' if a skin is reading it in 
>>>>> order to process its contents ??????
>>>>>
>>>>> last restart/failure...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO __main__: Starting up weewx 
>>>>> version 5.0.0
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.engine: Clock error 
>>>>> is -0.21 seconds (positive is fast)
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.engine: Using binding 
>>>>> 'wx_binding' to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Starting 
>>>>> backfill of daily summaries
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Daily 
>>>>> summaries up to date
>>>>> Jan 18 13:15:10 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.engine: Starting main 
>>>>> packet loop.
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:15 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>>> 2024-01-18 13:20:00 PST (1705612800) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:15 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>>> 2024-01-18 13:20:00 PST (1705612800) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:19 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 3.96 seconds
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:24 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.imagegenerator: 
>>>>> Generated 30 images for report SeasonsReport in 4.80 seconds
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:24 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.reportengine: Copied 
>>>>> 5 files to /home/pi/weewx-data/public_html
>>>>> Jan 18 13:20:24 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO user.belchertown: version 
>>>>> 1.3.1
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:15 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>>> 2024-01-18 13:30:00 PST (1705613400) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:15 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>>> 2024-01-18 13:30:00 PST (1705613400) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:20 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.engine: Main loop 
>>>>> exiting. Shutting engine down.
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:20 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.engine: Shutting down 
>>>>> StdReport thread
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:40 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: ERROR weewx.engine: Unable to 
>>>>> shut down StdReport thread
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:40 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: CRITICAL __main__: Database 
>>>>> OperationalError exception: database is locked
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:40 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: CRITICAL __main__:     **** 
>>>>>  Waiting 2 minutes then retrying...
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:42 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>>> Generated 12 files for report Belchertown in 617.64 seconds
>>>>> Jan 18 13:30:42 pi3plus weewxd[1756]: INFO weewx.reportengine: Copied 
>>>>> 40 files to /home/pi/weewx-data/public_html/belchertown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> weewx related open files:
>>>>>
>>>>> pi@pi3plus:~/weewx-data $ lsof|grep weew
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  217360     272588 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  224592     272587 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 1630340     271670 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imaging.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 2528660     271317 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/ephem/_
>>>>> libastro.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 56296     271675 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingmath.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 93216     271673 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingft.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 45064     271812 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/Cheetah/_
>>>>> namemapper.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>>
>>>>> When its cpus are pegged trying to process Belchertown:
>>>>>
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  cwd       DIR      179,2     
>>>>>  4096     272808 /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Belchertown
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  217360     272588 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  224592     272587 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 1630340     271670 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imaging.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 2528660     271317 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/ephem/_
>>>>> libastro.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 56296     271675 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingmath.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 93216     271673 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingft.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 45064     271812 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/Cheetah/_
>>>>> namemapper.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi    4uw     REG      179,2 
>>>>> 163410944      41497 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi    5uw     REG      179,2 
>>>>> 163410944      41497 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb
>>>>> python3   1633                        pi    6u      REG      179,2     
>>>>> 87200     275903 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb-journal
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  cwd       DIR      179,2     
>>>>>  4096     272808 /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Belchertown
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  217360     272588 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>>  224592     272587 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-data/skins/Seasons/font/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 1630340     271670 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imaging.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2   
>>>>> 2528660     271317 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/ephem/_
>>>>> libastro.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 56296     271675 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingmath.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 93216     271673 /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/PIL/_
>>>>> imagingft.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi  mem       REG      179,2     
>>>>> 45064     271812 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/Cheetah/_
>>>>> namemapper.cpython-311-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi    4uw     REG      179,2 
>>>>> 163410944      41497 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi    5uw     REG      179,2 
>>>>> 163410944      41497 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb
>>>>> python3   1633 1853 python3           pi    6u      REG      179,2     
>>>>> 87200     275903 /home/pi/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb-journal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 12:18:18 PM UTC-8 Blaine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the reply! Yes, I have tried this many times. It 
>>>>>> continues to regenerate them with the missing data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:29:41 PM UTC-8 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried completely deleting all NOAA reports and letting weewx 
>>>>>> regenerate them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 9:32 AM Blaine <bgri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way back in 2020 my NOAA reports stopped populating their daily 
>>>>>> values. The average values for the month continue to be populated at the 
>>>>>> bottom of the table. Since 2020 every year or so I have spent hours 
>>>>>> banging 
>>>>>> my head against the wall following any and all instructions on the wiki, 
>>>>>> github, google and this user group to attempt to repair this issue. None 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the published instructions seem to help. I have never been successful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is a problem that can be solved I would be more than happy to 
>>>>>> pay someone to help fix this issue knowing full well there are no 
>>>>>> guarantees recovery is possible. This data is important to me and having 
>>>>>> essentially lost years worth with no chance of recovery is a real bummer.
>>>>>>
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