Mike start with the minimum complexity on this one.   Unplug your device 
then plug it in, and look at output of 'dmesg' and 'lsusb' to verify which 
device it detects.

There are some very ancient threads here for FO station craziness with 
solutions saying unplug and remove/reinsert batteries from the station and 
the like, but lets see what your USB setup looks like.  Telling us which 
model station and whether you're using a usb multiport thing or connecting 
directly to the pi might help too.

On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 11:30:48 AM UTC-7 mike.t...@noworries.plus.com 
wrote:

> No I didn't
> Neither /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules nor 
> /etc/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules exists
> found this file though /etc/udev/rules.d/99-com.rules
>
> FYI this is an upgrade from v4 to 5 using FineOffset weather station
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> pi@weepi:~ $ more /etc/udev/rules.d/99-com.rules
> SUBSYSTEM=="input", GROUP="input", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="i2c-dev", GROUP="i2c", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="spidev", GROUP="spi", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="bcm2835-gpiomem", GROUP="gpio", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="rpivid-*", GROUP="video", MODE="0660"
>
> KERNEL=="vcsm-cma", GROUP="video", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="dma_heap", GROUP="video", MODE="0660"
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="gpio", GROUP="gpio", MODE="0660"
> SUBSYSTEM=="gpio", KERNEL=="gpiochip*", ACTION=="add", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 
> 'chgrp -R gpio /sys/class/gpio && chmod -R g=u /sys/class/gpio'"
> SUBSYSTEM=="gpio", ACTION=="add", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 'chgrp -R gpio 
> /sys%p && chmod -R g=u /sys%p'"
>
> # PWM export results in a "change" action on the pwmchip device (not "add" 
> of a new device), so match actions other than "remove".
> SUBSYSTEM=="pwm", ACTION!="remove", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 'chgrp -R gpio 
> /sys%p && chmod -R g=u /sys%p'"
>
> KERNEL=="ttyAMA0", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c '\
>         ALIASES=/proc/device-tree/aliases; \
>         if cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart0 $$ALIASES/serial0; then \
>                 echo 0;\
>         elif cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart0 $$ALIASES/serial1; then \
>                 echo 1; \
>         else \
>                 exit 1; \
>         fi\
> '", SYMLINK+="serial%c"
>
> KERNEL=="ttyAMA1", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c '\
>         ALIASES=/proc/device-tree/aliases; \
>         if [ -e /dev/ttyAMA0 ]; then \
>                 exit 1; \
>         elif cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart0 $$ALIASES/serial0; then \
>                 echo 0;\
>         elif cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart0 $$ALIASES/serial1; then \
>                 echo 1; \
>         else \
>                 exit 1; \
>         fi\
> '", SYMLINK+="serial%c"
>
> KERNEL=="ttyS0", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c '\
>         ALIASES=/proc/device-tree/aliases; \
>         if cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart1 $$ALIASES/serial0; then \
>                 echo 0; \
>         elif cmp -s $$ALIASES/uart1 $$ALIASES/serial1; then \
>                 echo 1; \
>         else \
>                 exit 1; \
>         fi \
> '", SYMLINK+="serial%c"
>
> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="vtconsole", KERNEL=="vtcon1", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 
> '\
>         if echo RPi-Sense FB | cmp -s /sys/class/graphics/fb0/name; then \
>                 echo 0 > /sys$devpath/bind; \
>         fi; \
> '"
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 6:49:36 PM UTC+1 michael.k...@gmx.at wrote:
>
>> Did you install an udev rule?
>>
>> mike.t...@noworries.plus.com schrieb am Montag, 24. Juni 2024 um 
>> 18:01:17 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Thanks Michael I've worked through the doc but not found a resolution.
>>>
>>> pi the weewx user is in the following groups pi adm dialout cdrom sudo 
>>> audio video plugdev games users input netdev lpadmin gpio i2c spi
>>>
>>> The arm device is as follows;
>>> (weewx-venv) pi@weepi:/home/weewx $ ls -l /dev/ttyAMA0
>>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 204, 64 Jun 24 11:10 /dev/ttyAMA0
>>>
>>> ps -ef | grep weewx - shows no instances running
>>>
>>> If I sudo weewxd then it runs.
>>> when running with sudo I see an error "unrecognised magic number 5528" 
>>> in the log
>>>
>>> Jun 24 16:57:46 weepi weewx[1345] INFO weewx.manager: Daily summaries up 
>>> to date
>>> Jun 24 16:57:47 weepi weewx[1345] ERROR weewx.drivers.fousb: 
>>> unrecognised magic number 5528
>>> Jun 24 16:57:47 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: get 4079 
>>> records since 2024-06-24 15:52:30
>>> Jun 24 16:57:47 weepi weewx[1345] INFO weewx.drivers.fousb: 
>>> synchronising to the weather station (quality=1)
>>> Jun 24 16:57:48 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: status 
>>> {'rain_overflow': 0, 'lost_connection': 0, 'unknown': 0} (0)
>>> Jun 24 16:58:05 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: new data
>>> Jun 24 16:58:05 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: setting 
>>> sensor clock 29.5306
>>> Jun 24 16:58:05 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: live 
>>> synchronised
>>> Jun 24 16:58:05 weepi weewx[1345] DEBUG weewx.drivers.fousb: packet 
>>> timestamp is 15:58:05
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 2:05:37 PM UTC+1 michael.k...@gmx.at wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe this sections will help you: 
>>>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Understanding-permissions#how-to-fix-device-permissions
>>>>
>>>> mike.t...@noworries.plus.com schrieb am Montag, 24. Juni 2024 um 
>>>> 14:27:38 UTC+2:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I've worked my way through the upgrade steps  following 
>>>>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/v5-upgrade and got to step 4 
>>>>>  weewxd --config=/home/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>
>>>>> running as pi I get the error 
>>>>> weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewxd: Unable to load driver: [Errno 
>>>>> 13] Access denied (insufficient permissions)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have changed the file ownership as per step 2 and everything under 
>>>>> /weewx/home/ looks to have pi as the owner
>>>>>
>>>>> if I sudo weewxd if does run without the driver error. I get a 
>>>>> different error "TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable"  but weew 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> running and updating.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to confess I'm I'm not sure where to look to spot the incorrect 
>>>>> privilege.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a RPI4 and Fine Offset weather station.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> _____________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:01 weepi CRON[17056]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts 
>>>>> --report /etc/cron.hourly)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Initializing weewxd 
>>>>> version 5.0.2
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Command line: 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/bin/weewxd --config=/home/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Using Python 3.7.3 
>>>>> (default, Jan 22 2021, 20:04:44) #012[GCC 8.3.0]
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Located at 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/bin/python3
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Platform 
>>>>> Linux-5.10.63-v7l+-armv7l-with-debian-10.11
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Locale: 'en_GB'
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Entry path: 
>>>>> /home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewxd.py
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: WEEWX_ROOT: 
>>>>> /home/weewx
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Configuration file: 
>>>>> /home/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: User module: 
>>>>> /home/weewx/bin/user
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewxd: Debug: 0
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewx.engine: Loading 
>>>>> station type FineOffsetUSB (weewx.drivers.fousb)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewx.drivers.fousb: driver 
>>>>> version is 1.3
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewx.drivers.fousb: polling 
>>>>> mode is PERIODIC
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewx.drivers.fousb: polling 
>>>>> interval is 60
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: INFO weewx.drivers.fousb: found 
>>>>> station on USB bus= device=
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.drivers.fousb: 
>>>>> Unable to claim USB interface 0: [Errno 13] Access denied (insufficient 
>>>>> permissions)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: ERROR weewx.engine: Import of 
>>>>> driver failed: [Errno 13] Access denied (insufficient permissions) 
>>>>> (<class 
>>>>> 'weewx.WeeWxIOError'>)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     **** 
>>>>>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewx/drivers/fousb.py", 
>>>>> line 1036, in openPort
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    self.devh.claimInterface(self.usb_interface)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/legacy.py", 
>>>>> line 
>>>>> 232, in claimInterface
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    util.claim_interface(self.dev, interface)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/util.py", line 
>>>>> 207, in claim_interface
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    device._ctx.managed_claim_interface(device, interface)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 
>>>>> 113, in wrapper
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    return f(self, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 
>>>>> 170, in managed_claim_interface
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    self.managed_open()
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 
>>>>> 113, in wrapper
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    return f(self, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 
>>>>> 131, in managed_open
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    self.handle = self.backend.open_device(self.dev)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/backend/libusb1.py", 
>>>>> line 804, in open_device
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    return _DeviceHandle(dev)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/backend/libusb1.py", 
>>>>> line 652, in __init__
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    _check(_lib.libusb_open(self.devid, byref(self.handle)))
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/usb/backend/libusb1.py", 
>>>>> line 604, in _check
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    raise USBError(_strerror(ret), ret, _libusb_errno[ret])
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     **** 
>>>>>  usb.core.USBError: [Errno 13] Access denied (insufficient permissions)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     **** 
>>>>>  During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     **** 
>>>>>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewx/engine.py", 
>>>>> line 115, in setupStation
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    self.console = loader_function(config_dict, self)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewx/drivers/fousb.py", 
>>>>> line 232, in loader
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    return FineOffsetUSB(**config_dict[DRIVER_NAME])
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewx/drivers/fousb.py", 
>>>>> line 967, in __init__
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    self.openPort()
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>  File 
>>>>> "/home/pi/weewx-venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages/weewx/drivers/fousb.py", 
>>>>> line 1040, in openPort
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     ****   
>>>>>    raise weewx.WeeWxIOError(e)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewx.engine:     **** 
>>>>>  weewx.WeeWxIOError: [Errno 13] Access denied (insufficient permissions)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewxd: Unable to load 
>>>>> driver: [Errno 13] Access denied (insufficient permissions)
>>>>> Jun 24 13:17:05 weepi weewxd[17081]: CRITICAL weewxd:     **** 
>>>>>  Exiting...
>>>>>
>>>>

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