OK, that's the missing piece. In the driver's [Accumulator] defaults there 
is no

[[p_rain]]
    extractor = sum

But for "hail" it's there, making me wonder why it doesn't work for "hail"?
[email protected] schrieb am Sonntag, 14. September 2025 um 11:02:49 UTC+2:

> Because the accumulator rule for "rain" is set by default to "sum" in 
> /weewx/accum.py 
>
> Le dimanche 14 septembre 2025 à 10:41:16 UTC+2, [email protected] a 
> écrit :
>
>> Still, I wonder why this is necessary for "p_rain", while it isn't for 
>> "rain". Same data source, same observation type (not the sam obs_type!) 
>> different source, it seems inconsistent to me. 
>>
>> [email protected] schrieb am Sonntag, 14. September 2025 um 10:30:36 
>> UTC+2:
>>
>>> [Accumulator]
>>>     [[p_rain]]
>>>         extractor = sum
>>>
>>> Seems to do the trick. I remember having it commented out in a prior 
>>> version and it didn't change anything I was aware of. Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> For hail, I think still think it shouldn't be mapped to the piezo gauge 
>>> in the driver, if you need it that way, I'd suggest you set it in the 
>>> Corrections Stanza in your config.
>>> Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 18:28:04 UTC+2:
>>>
>>>> Also missing: 
>>>>
>>>> loop_on_init = 1
>>>>
>>>> Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 18:22:30 UTC+2:
>>>>
>>>>> The difference I noticed compared to my weewx.conf is (missing in your 
>>>>> case)
>>>>>
>>>>> [StdWXCalculate]
>>>>> [[Calculations]]
>>>>> rain = prefer_hardware
>>>>> p_rain = prefer_hardware
>>>>> hail = prefer_hardware
>>>>>
>>>>> [Accumulator]
>>>>> [[p_rain]]
>>>>> extractor = sum
>>>>> [[hail]]
>>>>> extractor = sum
>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected] schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 
>>>>> 15:34:57 UTC+2:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Im really curious. My extensions.py contains apart from comments 
>>>>>> these four lines:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> import locale
>>>>>> import weewx.units
>>>>>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
>>>>>> weewx.units.obs_group_dict['p_rainRate'] = 'group_rainrate'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the config is attached.
>>>>>> Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 14:56:55 UTC+2:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today, I installed a new instance of WeeWx with the EcowittHttp 
>>>>>>> driver and the
>>>>>>> database schema 
>>>>>>> schema = schemas.wview_ecowittrssi.schema
>>>>>>> and the setting
>>>>>>> [StdConvert]
>>>>>>> target_unit = METRICWX
>>>>>>> for testing purposes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The extensions.py file has no entries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The piezo rain quantity is saved to the database with mm values, as 
>>>>>>> expected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Michael,
>>>>>>> Your problem with the incorrect entries for piezo rain quantity
>>>>>>> in the database can only be due to your settings (weewx.conf and/or 
>>>>>>> extensions.py).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are welcome to send me your weewx.conf for review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 
>>>>>>> 19:02:40 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  p_rain = piezoRain.0x10.val
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is not the rain for the given loop. Without calculating a delta, 
>>>>>>>> you get ridiculous amounts of rain. I have no such delta define, you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ian Millard schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 18:19:13 
>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Michael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have added piezo rain columns to my database and then set up 
>>>>>>>>> mapping like this: -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [EcowittHttp]
>>>>>>>>>     # This section is for the Ecowitt local HTTP API driver.
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>     # the driver to use
>>>>>>>>>     driver = user.ecowitt_http
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>     # how often to poll the device
>>>>>>>>>     poll_interval = 8
>>>>>>>>>     # how many attempts to contact the device before giving up
>>>>>>>>>     max_tries = 3
>>>>>>>>>     # wait time in seconds between retries to contact the device
>>>>>>>>>     retry_wait = 2
>>>>>>>>>     # max wait for device to respond to a HTTP request
>>>>>>>>>     url_timeout = 3
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>     # whether to show all battery state data including nonsense 
>>>>>>>>> data and 
>>>>>>>>>     # sensors that are disabled sensors and connecting
>>>>>>>>>     show_all_batt = False
>>>>>>>>>     # whether to ignore battery state data from legacy WH40 
>>>>>>>>> sensors that do 
>>>>>>>>>     # not provide valid battery state data
>>>>>>>>>     ignore_legacy_wh40_battery = True
>>>>>>>>>     # whether to always log unknown API fields, unknown fields are 
>>>>>>>>> always 
>>>>>>>>>     # logged at the debug level, this will log them at the info 
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>     log_unknown_fields = False
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>     # How often to check for device firmware updates, 0 disables 
>>>>>>>>> firmware 
>>>>>>>>>     # update checks. Available firmware updates are logged.
>>>>>>>>>     firmware_update_check_interval = 86400
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>     # provide additional log information to help debug rainfall 
>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>     debug_rain = False
>>>>>>>>>     # provide additional log information to help debug wind issues
>>>>>>>>>     debug_wind = False
>>>>>>>>>     # provide additional log information to help debug loop packet 
>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>     debug_loop = False
>>>>>>>>>     # provide additional log information to help debug sensor 
>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>     debug_sensors = False
>>>>>>>>>     ip_address = 192.168.1.100
>>>>>>>>>     [[field_map_extensions]]
>>>>>>>>>         batteryStatus1 = ws90.battery
>>>>>>>>>         rain = rain.0x10.val
>>>>>>>>>         stormRain = rain.0x0D.val
>>>>>>>>>         rainRate = rain.0x0E.val
>>>>>>>>>         hourRain = t_rainhour
>>>>>>>>>         dayRain = rain.0x10.val
>>>>>>>>>         weekRain = rain.0x11.val
>>>>>>>>>         monthRain = rain.0x12.val
>>>>>>>>>         yearRain = rain.0x13.val
>>>>>>>>>         is_raining = piezoRain.srain_piezo.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_rain = piezoRain.0x10.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_stormRain = piezoRain.0x0D.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_rainRate = piezoRain.0x0E.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_hourRain = p_rainhour
>>>>>>>>>         p_dayRain = piezoRain.0x10.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_weekRain = piezoRain.0x11.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_monthRain = piezoRain.0x12.val
>>>>>>>>>         p_yearRain = piezoRain.0x13.val
>>>>>>>>>         vpd = common_list.5.val
>>>>>>>>>         lightning_distance = lightning.distance
>>>>>>>>>         lightning_last_det_time = lightning.timestamp
>>>>>>>>>         lightningcount = lightning.count
>>>>>>>>>         pm2_5 = ch_pm25.1.PM25_RealAQI
>>>>>>>>>         pm2_52_24h_avg = ch_pm25.1.PM25_24HAQI
>>>>>>>>>         pm10_0 = co2.PM10
>>>>>>>>>         luminosity = common_list.0x15.val
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2025, at 16:23, '[email protected]' via weewx-user <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And for the record:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail.png>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I don't do anything with hail in my configs or elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And this is what's in the database, using the ecowitt gateway 
>>>>>>>>> driver:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail_ecowitt_gateway_driver.png>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So with the ecowitt_http driver, the values for p_rain are 
>>>>>>>>> p_rain(old)/29. This can't be an inch/mm conversion issue. 25,4 is 
>>>>>>>>> too far 
>>>>>>>>> off 29.
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 
>>>>>>>>> 17:10:39 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, I haven't and it won't change anything, because the js has no 
>>>>>>>>>> effect on database entries (I know that, I'm the maintainer of the 
>>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap skin for several years now and more than 90% of the js 
>>>>>>>>>> code was 
>>>>>>>>>> done by myself).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These are the values in the database for rain and p_rain for the 
>>>>>>>>>> Sep 10, 17:00 - 17:30:
>>>>>>>>>> [image: rain_vs_p_rain.png][image: ecowitt_http_driver.png]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Werner Krenn schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 15:05:49 
>>>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Michael, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried adding p_rain:
>>>>>>>>>>> p_rain: "group_rain"
>>>>>>>>>>> to the file
>>>>>>>>>>> "units.js" (Bootstrap skin) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 
>>>>>>>>>>> 13:18:25 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My database contains values following METRICWX.
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOOP data also contains p_rain in [mm], so in the MQTT object 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the LiveGauges there is no payload_key "p_rain_in", only 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "p_rain_mm", which is 100% I'd expected things to be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give it a try and use hail instead, and see what will 
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen, maybe that gives us a clue what's happening. I mean: why 
>>>>>>>>>>>> should 
>>>>>>>>>>>> p_rain [mm] behave in another way than rain [mm]? Maybe there is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something 
>>>>>>>>>>>> missing in a group/unit assignment for p_rain... it's not a common 
>>>>>>>>>>>> obs_type, neither in wview, nor wview_extended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Werner Krenn schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 11:32:27 
>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume you're using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> target_unit = METRIC # Options are 'US', 'METRICWX', or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'METRIC'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> target_unit = METRICWX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use target_unit = US
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why p_rain is being then written to the database 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in inches for you; I don't have enough experience with WeeWx for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if you use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> payload_key = p_rain_in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the display should be correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 05:25:57 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May it's that I use p_rain and not hail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [[[[rain]]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 [[[[[rain]]]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     payload_key = rain_mm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 [[[[[p_rain]]]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     plotType = bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     aggregateType = sum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     aggregateInterval = 1800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     payload_key = p_rain_mm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     showMaxMarkPoint = false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     showMinMarkPoint = false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     showAvgMarkLine = false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     lineColor = "#428bca77"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     decimals = 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interesting thing is, when receiving data from LOOP using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MQTT, the value is correct, it's only the databa value that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Smith schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 03:57:19 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Sept 2025 at 03:41, p q <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty sure the US uses the international inch for far 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer. Since before I started working with canadian companies 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1990s. There is official looking documentation that shows the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yard (and thus the inch) defined in 1959 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://usma.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sp447-app5.pdf?x40840
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are still various survey foot definitions with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly different values in the US, and of course the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nautical mile and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related measures. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/geodesy/international-foot.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you disagree update the Wikipedia page with references... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *grin* 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> <rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail_ecowitt_gateway_driver.png>
>>>>>>>>> <rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail.png>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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