@Michael,
I think it must be something specific in the way hail is used by WeeWX. With the piezo I just added extra columns in the database which mirrored the rain columns and it worked without issues. If you do not wish to extend the database maybe worth trying another spare existing column.

https://claydonsweather.org.uk

On 14 Sep 2025, at 10:16, '[email protected]' via weewx-user <[email protected]> wrote:

OK, that's the missing piece. In the driver's [Accumulator] defaults there is no

[[p_rain]]
    extractor = sum

But for "hail" it's there, making me wonder why it doesn't work for "hail"?
[email protected] schrieb am Sonntag, 14. September 2025 um 11:02:49 UTC+2:
Because the accumulator rule for "rain" is set by default to "sum" in /weewx/accum.py 

Le dimanche 14 septembre 2025 à 10:41:16 UTC+2, [email protected] a écrit :
Still, I wonder why this is necessary for "p_rain", while it isn't for "rain". Same data source, same observation type (not the sam obs_type!) different source, it seems inconsistent to me. 

[email protected] schrieb am Sonntag, 14. September 2025 um 10:30:36 UTC+2:
[Accumulator]
    [[p_rain]]
        extractor = sum


Seems to do the trick. I remember having it commented out in a prior version and it didn't change anything I was aware of. Thanks for the help.

For hail, I think still think it shouldn't be mapped to the piezo gauge in the driver, if you need it that way, I'd suggest you set it in the Corrections Stanza in your config.
Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 18:28:04 UTC+2:
Also missing: 

loop_on_init = 1

Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 18:22:30 UTC+2:
The difference I noticed compared to my weewx.conf is (missing in your case)

[StdWXCalculate]
[[Calculations]]
rain = prefer_hardware
p_rain = prefer_hardware
hail = prefer_hardware

[Accumulator]
[[p_rain]]
extractor = sum
[[hail]]
extractor = sum

[email protected] schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 15:34:57 UTC+2:
Im really curious. My extensions.py contains apart from comments these four lines:

import locale
import weewx.units
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
weewx.units.obs_group_dict['p_rainRate'] = 'group_rainrate'

And the config is attached.
Werner Krenn schrieb am Samstag, 13. September 2025 um 14:56:55 UTC+2:
Today, I installed a new instance of WeeWx with the EcowittHttp driver and the
database schema 
schema = schemas.wview_ecowittrssi.schema
and the setting
[StdConvert]
target_unit = METRICWX
for testing purposes.

The extensions.py file has no entries.

The piezo rain quantity is saved to the database with mm values, as expected.

@Michael,
Your problem with the incorrect entries for piezo rain quantity
in the database can only be due to your settings (weewx.conf and/or extensions.py).

You are welcome to send me your weewx.conf for review.

[email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 19:02:40 UTC+2:
 p_rain = piezoRain.0x10.val

Is not the rain for the given loop. Without calculating a delta, you get ridiculous amounts of rain. I have no such delta define, you?

Ian Millard schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 18:19:13 UTC+2:
@Michael,

I have added piezo rain columns to my database and then set up mapping like this: -

[EcowittHttp]
    # This section is for the Ecowitt local HTTP API driver.
    
    # the driver to use
    driver = user.ecowitt_http
    
    # how often to poll the device
    poll_interval = 8
    # how many attempts to contact the device before giving up
    max_tries = 3
    # wait time in seconds between retries to contact the device
    retry_wait = 2
    # max wait for device to respond to a HTTP request
    url_timeout = 3
    
    # whether to show all battery state data including nonsense data and 
    # sensors that are disabled sensors and connecting
    show_all_batt = False
    # whether to ignore battery state data from legacy WH40 sensors that do 
    # not provide valid battery state data
    ignore_legacy_wh40_battery = True
    # whether to always log unknown API fields, unknown fields are always 
    # logged at the debug level, this will log them at the info level
    log_unknown_fields = False
    
    # How often to check for device firmware updates, 0 disables firmware 
    # update checks. Available firmware updates are logged.
    firmware_update_check_interval = 86400
    
    # provide additional log information to help debug rainfall issues
    debug_rain = False
    # provide additional log information to help debug wind issues
    debug_wind = False
    # provide additional log information to help debug loop packet issues
    debug_loop = False
    # provide additional log information to help debug sensor issues
    debug_sensors = False
    ip_address = 192.168.1.100
    [[field_map_extensions]]
        batteryStatus1 = ws90.battery
        rain = rain.0x10.val
        stormRain = rain.0x0D.val
        rainRate = rain.0x0E.val
        hourRain = t_rainhour
        dayRain = rain.0x10.val
        weekRain = rain.0x11.val
        monthRain = rain.0x12.val
        yearRain = rain.0x13.val
        is_raining = piezoRain.srain_piezo.val
        p_rain = piezoRain.0x10.val
        p_stormRain = piezoRain.0x0D.val
        p_rainRate = piezoRain.0x0E.val
        p_hourRain = p_rainhour
        p_dayRain = piezoRain.0x10.val
        p_weekRain = piezoRain.0x11.val
        p_monthRain = piezoRain.0x12.val
        p_yearRain = piezoRain.0x13.val
        vpd = common_list.5.val
        lightning_distance = lightning.distance
        lightning_last_det_time = lightning.timestamp
        lightningcount = lightning.count
        pm2_5 = ch_pm25.1.PM25_RealAQI
        pm2_52_24h_avg = ch_pm25.1.PM25_24HAQI
        pm10_0 = co2.PM10
        luminosity = common_list.0x15.val

On 12 Sep 2025, at 16:23, '[email protected]' via weewx-user <[email protected]> wrote:

And for the record:


<rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail.png>

And I don't do anything with hail in my configs or elsewhere.

And this is what's in the database, using the ecowitt gateway driver:
<rain_vs_p_rain_vs.hail_ecowitt_gateway_driver.png>

So with the ecowitt_http driver, the values for p_rain are p_rain(old)/29. This can't be an inch/mm conversion issue. 25,4 is too far off 29.
michael.k...@gmx.at schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 17:10:39 UTC+2:
No, I haven't and it won't change anything, because the js has no effect on database entries (I know that, I'm the maintainer of the Bootstrap skin for several years now and more than 90% of the js code was done by myself).

These are the values in the database for rain and p_rain for the Sep 10, 17:00 - 17:30:
rain_vs_p_rain.pngecowitt_http_driver.png



Werner Krenn schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 15:05:49 UTC+2:
@Michael, 
Have you tried adding p_rain:
p_rain: "group_rain"
to the file
"units.js" (Bootstrap skin) ?

[email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 13:18:25 UTC+2:
My database contains values following METRICWX.
LOOP data also contains p_rain in [mm], so in the MQTT object for the LiveGauges there is no payload_key "p_rain_in", only "p_rain_mm", which is 100% I'd expected things to be.
I'll give it a try and use hail instead, and see what will happen, maybe that gives us a clue what's happening. I mean: why should p_rain [mm] behave in another way than rain [mm]? Maybe there is something missing in a group/unit assignment for p_rain... it's not a common obs_type, neither in wview, nor wview_extended.

Werner Krenn schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 11:32:27 UTC+2:
@Michael,
I assume you're using
target_unit = METRIC # Options are 'US', 'METRICWX', or 'METRIC'
or
target_unit = METRICWX

I use target_unit = US
I don't know why p_rain is being then written to the database in inches for you; I don't have enough experience with WeeWx for that.

But if you use
payload_key = p_rain_in
the display should be correct

[email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 05:25:57 UTC+2:
May it's that I use p_rain and not hail:

          [[[[rain]]]]
                [[[[[rain]]]]]
                    payload_key = rain_mm
                [[[[[p_rain]]]]]
                    plotType = bar
                    aggregateType = sum
                    aggregateInterval = 1800
                    payload_key = p_rain_mm

                    showMaxMarkPoint = false
                    showMinMarkPoint = false
                    showAvgMarkLine = false
                    lineColor = "#428bca77"
                    decimals = 1


The interesting thing is, when receiving data from LOOP using MQTT, the value is correct, it's only the databa value that isn't.
John Smith schrieb am Freitag, 12. September 2025 um 03:57:19 UTC+2:
On Fri, 12 Sept 2025 at 03:41, p q <[email protected]> wrote:
I am pretty sure the US uses the international inch for far longer. Since before I started working with canadian companies in the 1990s. There is official looking documentation that shows the international yard (and thus the inch) defined in 1959 https://usma.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sp447-app5.pdf?x40840
There are still various survey foot definitions with slightly different values in the US, and of course the nautical mile and related measures. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/geodesy/international-foot.html

If you disagree update the Wikipedia page with references... *grin* 

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