i get the feeling she is very busy and needs to be told what she wants. On 11 May 2010 06:50, Wendy <[email protected]> wrote:
> These are good points and I'm in agreement. We need clarification on > what's expected. > > Normally I'd stick my hand up for this sort of thing - perhaps > surprisingly, diplomatic relations and pr is something I'm quite good at. > But not at the moment. I have a short fuse and am likely to be rude if she > doesn't know what she wants. So I'm passing for someone else to pick it > up. I will probably go along and spin my hoop/fans/palms, but I'd like to > know what I'm getting in for. > > (i will never forget being approached by a drunk stokes valley bogan who > had filmed me on his cellphone and wanted to tell me he was going home to > wank over it) > > On 11 May 2010 06:46, mike iorns <[email protected]> wrote: > >> i consider most of the points made to be extremely valid, which is why I >> first raised the question in my earlier message about undercutting >> professionals, and asked for comments from people about what is a good sort >> of arrangement. >> >> i should have not made any comments to Zoe about payment and costs, which >> were all vague and off the top of my head as ideas, without first checking >> what the feeling was of whoever might be into doing it. >> >> so far there has been very little information from Zoe about the nature of >> what she is asking. I am getting the idea it might a vague desire to have >> lots of circusy-type things going on amid a crowd of revellers and other >> stuff going on, and wonder if there is actually any sort of sound-system >> envisaged, or any formal structure to it. it might be just a general idea >> that people would feel free to turn up and muck around as another venue for >> doing it, or it might be part of a structured programme of entertainment. >> the nature of the initial invitation was just that, an invitation. "hey >> we're having a carnival feel free to come along and do fire". >> >> i originally sent a contact message because it seemed that "someone has >> to" in order to try to find out more, and it went from there. I am not >> comfortable being "speaker for the group" in an authoritative sense, without >> actually collating and presenting the stated opinions of people involved. >> >> I don't really enjoy the idea of just sort of turning up and setting up as >> per a Tuesday, amid a huge crowd of people who might be nice family types or >> who might be drunken bogans, or a mixture thereof. even at the south karori >> equinox thing there were drunken bogans being irritating. >> >> so i propose further enquiry, and either someone else can talk it over >> with Zoe, or people can consider the options and indicate preference, >> something like the following maybe? >> >> - just turning up like itinerant buskers and being shown a spot and left >> to it all informally, costs covered and a cherry on top >> >> - being given a spot, a time slot, and some infrastructural support such >> as access to sound equipment, and making an effort to keep the flames >> continually moving as a group, cash reward/payment as a group >> >> - structured and announced performance time and place, full support >> resources including securty, stagey area, some sort of prearranged order of >> stuff to be done as a sort of show and a definite fee on an established >> per-person basis >> >> - etc. >> >> I am not a pro, sometimes I do really well and sometimes my stuff is shit. >> If it is all paid and committed and structured then there is an obligation >> to do something "good". If it is totally informal I would feel free to feel >> like not doing it on the night (face it I really don't like close crowds all >> that much) especially if something else more entertaining to do came along >> for that evening or i was exhausted from a week of the kind of shit i have >> been going through lately. which is another reason why i am reluctant at >> this stage to be committed as transport. >> >> mike >> >> On 9 May 2010 21:51, Sangrail <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey Urs, >>> having been a friend of yours for many years, and even a flatmate, would >>> you forgive me when I say that - >>> oh noes! The Intarwebs has struck again! >>> Yeah, it may not have been what you intended, but it did *read* as >>> confrontational/aggressive. Damn those net-based daemons. ;D >>> So, sucks for anyone who read this and had hurt feelings on anysides. >>> If it's on on Tuesday, maybe relevant parties can meet up in person and >>> bounce ideas? >>> >>> Much better forum for it. >>> >>> Lots of love, >>> >>> Pearl >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2010 19:00, Urs Stafford <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > I think your tone is unnecessarily confrontational. >>>> >>>> Because I stated my opinon, and asked what I thought was a pertinent >>>> question? And then answered your reply, because I felt I needed to >>>> clarify a few things? >>>> >>>> > in any case actually i am offended at your writing off of provision of >>>> equipment as irrelevant one-off factors and monetizing them. It takes >>>> ongoing effort to ensure amps are charged, to manhandle them into vehicles, >>>> it takes ongoing effort to ensure gear is available. If you consider these >>>> things irrelevant bring your own. >>>> >>>> Where did I say they were "irrelevant"? Show me. I never said they >>>> were irrelevant, I said they were usually one-off costs because they >>>> weren't used up every week the way fuel is. >>>> >>>> How much does it cost you each week to charge up the amp? I'm happy to >>>> pay a bit towards that too. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Urs. >>>> -- >>>> We come from everywhere. 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