On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Walter McGinnis
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jeremy Olliver <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > We've just setup Jenkins as CI yesterday, though this isn't the first
> time we've used it, and it seems to be pretty good.
> > I'm not a fan of plain language specifications myself, though am finding
> on our current project that rspec syntax in combination with Capybara steps
> (no cucumber) is very readable. I don't think it's feasible to get a BA to
> write the acutal tests/specs personally, and if they only need to specify
> what you're testing, not write it themselves, then sitting down with a
> BA/tester and writing some specs then is a nice way to go.
>
> Here's more discussion about cutting out cucumber and using some helpers
> for more helpful output when using rspec with capybara:
>
>
> http://blog.railsware.com/2012/01/08/capybara-with-givenwhenthen-steps-in-acceptance-testing/
>
> Haven't tried it myself.
>


I'll take the opposite tack and say that clicking buttons, etc might be
closer to how one developer would think, but there is value in abstracting
the steps out into something a user actually does. Aslak says it better:

http://aslakhellesoy.com/post/11055981222/the-training-wheels-came-off

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