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Did you hear that Brian's mother died yesterday?


----- Original Message ----- From: "tony wilts" <[email protected]>
To: "Welsh Bus Photographs" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Help Please.


SWT still had 2 conductors based in swansea until the late 80's, I
bumped into the last one ,Tommy? on a city mini service to mumblesin
dec 89, the driver was jeff phillips, better known for owning ex N&C
reliance PTX830F

On Apr 13, 10:39 am, "Allan Morse" <[email protected]>
wrote:
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: Help Please.

Hello Allan.

I wonder if you could help a local lad with a project he been doing for some time now, He needs some blanks filled in...Could you or groups you belong to help out?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, Any reply's please: To Dave Towers

a.. [email protected]

John, do you think some of your knowledgeable mates might be able to help me with my "end of conductors" exercise as shown below? I don't know if this will come across alright; I tried to do an attachment but some of these computer procedure...es are a bit beyond me!
CREW OPERATION IN WALES - WHEN WERE THE LAST CONDUCTORS PHASED OUT?

Can any local readers advise me when 100% o-p-o was achieved for the following fleets?

Aberconwy In 1964 this fleet consisted of about 10 single deck vehicles between 20 and 35 seats so may well have been
fully o-p-o by then

Aberdare Double deck operation ceased in December 1972. Was this also the end of crew operation?

Cardiff Crew operation finished in April 1980, although I don't have an exact date

Colwyn Bay In the mid 1960s this fleet consisted on just four 21 seat Bedfords, so one would suspect had been fully o-p-o
for some considerable time

Islwyn Crew operation reported finished October 1980, again, exact date unknown

Methyr Tydfil The last double deckers were withdrawn 31/08/77; was this also the end of crew operation?

Newport It was reported that a new delivery of Metropolitans was awaited in 1974, which would provide enough vehicles to convert to total o-p-o. BUSES magazine for March 1975 advised that these vehicles were being delivered during January 1975. Perhaps the last conductors finished January/February 1975?

Rhymney Valley I have seen a photograph of a PD3 in service in February 1981 which was reported withdrawn a few months later. BUSES reported the last PD3 was sold to Stevenson's in Oct '82, but it could have been out of service for
a while

Taff Ely It is well documented that some of the Regent fleet survived into 1984. Most photos I have seen though of these show them being employed on school duties only. I wonder if they had been withdrawn from 'regular' service some time previously and that the second men on these buses would be spare drivers acting as 'attendants' rather than true conductors? I have read of a PD3 arriving from Rhymney Valley to cover
but was this just to cover school routes?

National Welsh In 1980 a fleet list was printed in BUSES, showing 10 half cabs still in stock, being one Lodekka, 2 Renowns and
7 PDs; the last of these ten (a Renown) was withdrawn later in 1980

South Wales Another NBC company. Some Regents were retained to operate route 14 to Pennard which had to navigate a very tight corner en-route. The Regents were delicensed at the end of February 1982; did their crews
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