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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: Help Please.


Hello Allan.

I wonder if you could help a local lad with a project he been doing for some 
time now, He needs some blanks filled in...Could you or groups you belong to 
help out?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, Any reply's please: To  Dave Towers  

  a.. [email protected]


John, do you think some of your knowledgeable mates might be able to help me 
with my "end of conductors" exercise as shown below? I don't know if this will 
come across alright; I tried to do an attachment but some of these computer 
procedure...es are a bit beyond me! 
CREW OPERATION IN WALES - WHEN WERE THE LAST CONDUCTORS PHASED OUT?

Can any local readers advise me when 100% o-p-o was achieved for the following 
fleets?

Aberconwy In 1964 this fleet consisted of about 10 single deck vehicles between 
20 and 35 seats so may well have been 
fully o-p-o by then

Aberdare Double deck operation ceased in December 1972. Was this also the end 
of crew operation? 

Cardiff Crew operation finished in April 1980, although I don't have an exact 
date

Colwyn Bay In the mid 1960s this fleet consisted on just four 21 seat Bedfords, 
so one would suspect had been fully o-p-o
for some considerable time

Islwyn Crew operation reported finished October 1980, again, exact date unknown

Methyr Tydfil The last double deckers were withdrawn 31/08/77; was this also 
the end of crew operation?

Newport It was reported that a new delivery of Metropolitans was awaited in 
1974, which would provide enough
vehicles to convert to total o-p-o. BUSES magazine for March 1975 advised that 
these vehicles were
being delivered during January 1975. Perhaps the last conductors finished 
January/February 1975?

Rhymney Valley I have seen a photograph of a PD3 in service in February 1981 
which was reported withdrawn a few months
later. BUSES reported the last PD3 was sold to Stevenson's in Oct '82, but it 
could have been out of service for
a while

Taff Ely It is well documented that some of the Regent fleet survived into 
1984. Most photos I have seen
though of these show them being employed on school duties only. I wonder if 
they had been withdrawn
from 'regular' service some time previously and that the second men on these 
buses would be spare drivers
acting as 'attendants' rather than true conductors? I have read of a PD3 
arriving from Rhymney Valley to cover
but was this just to cover school routes?

National Welsh In 1980 a fleet list was printed in BUSES, showing 10 half cabs 
still in stock, being one Lodekka, 2 Renowns and
7 PDs; the last of these ten (a Renown) was withdrawn later in 1980

South Wales Another NBC company. Some Regents were retained to operate route 14 
to Pennard which had to navigate
a very tight corner en-route. The Regents were delicensed at the end of 
February 1982; did their crews
finish with them? 



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