Nice picture David. I bet the 172 drivers can tell a tale. They must
be experts in driving in snow and ice. Does anyone know if any buses
did get stuck on top of the Maerdy Mountain Road?

On Jul 24, 2:46 pm, David Beilby <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sometimes you get exceptional and very unusual conditions.  Here a  
> dual-purpose National is making its way to Porthcawl on 28th February  
> 1981.  Down in the valley was dull and dank, up here on the hillside  
> there is a bit of snow and a National apparently on its way to Heaven!
>
> This is one of my favourite shots.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Beilby
>
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> On 24 Jul 2011, at 07:48, Martin Bray wrote:
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> > After looking at your picture last week, I looked at the map and
> > sundial and naively believed that sun shots were only on at certain
> > times of the day but when I arrived at the location and parked up,
> > where you must have done, I realised that by walking around the 'Z'
> > bend, that shots for Aberdare bound buses were on till approx midday
> > and outward bound services, all day. I never stayed long enough to
> > recreate your shot which presumably was taken in the afternoon and
> > liable to being bowled out by traffic going the opposite way. Thar
> > second hairpin is real tight and on a cant as well, so on my next
> > visit, I'll leave the car in the usual place and walk down to the
> > second hairpin and stand on the bank. I bet the shots from here are
> > very atmospheric and on full lock. I wouldn't mind a picture of a
> > grounded versa at this place. lol.
>
> > I forgot to mention that the 172 drivers appear to be the same one's
> > most days and are all very friendly with the smiles and waves, which
> > in a lonesome place like that is very welcoming. The 172 is a cracking
> > route for pictures and I dare say that there are some good pictures to
> > be taken on the other side of the mountain, the Rhondda and Ogmore
> > Valleys.
>
> > On Jul 23, 10:58 pm, Barrie Gilbert <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Cracking shots of 20385 Martin.
>
> >> Low floor Darts (and Solos) can be used on the route, but low floor
> >> 12m vehicles seem to pose a problem.  Both the second hairpin on the
> >> way up from Aberdare and the junction in Ystrad appear particularly
> >> tight for a long vehicle.  I understand that Enviro300 27700 was not
> >> successful when trialled last year.  It'll be interesting to see if
> >> Stagecoach trials one of the 12m Alexander ALX300-bodied MANs, in the
> >> process of being transferred from the Manchester fleet, as possible
> >> replacements for the B10Ms.
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