That certainly makes sense to me.
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Noy <neuhauserc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah, well I'd rather it stay as is. The Khalifate era is not fully ready > for mainline default; it needs more anims and more play testing for > balancing. I think it should be added as part of the stable version for > another cycle before its ready to be considered our best era. Does that > make sense? > > > > > On 2014-02-03, at 9:45 AM, chris beck <beck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 1) Maybe instead of Classic we could have Default minus Khalifate? Or you > could just call it "Old Default". > > 2) I think it would be nice also if the stated goal of the tournament > tournament is not just balancing Khalifate but also improving the balance > of Default era generally. I'm not an MP expert personally but having been > around for a bit, specced my share of ladder games and spoken to some top > tier players, I think one could argue that Knalgan vs Undead, particularly > on a map like Sulla's ruins, is not significantly more balanced than the > matchups with Khalifate right now. > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Noy <neuhauserc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'd rather it stay as Default + Khalifate for the time being. Its really >> a new test era and changing its name to something that doesn't describe >> what it is will likely confuse players. Compounding that issue is that its >> not "classic" at all. Maybe for the subsequent stable we can change it, but >> really, not at this stage. >> >> >> On 2014-02-03, at 9:11 AM, Nils Kneuper <crazy-ivano...@gmx.net> wrote: >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > Hi folks! >> > During dinner at FOSDEM 2014 we also discussed the topic of content >> which is >> > new and unlikely to be much tested before the version is finally >> stable. We >> > had problems with those "load tests" before (e.g. with the multiplayer >> lobby). >> > Right now we might be facing an "issue" like this with the new race >> Khalifate. >> > The current setup is as follows: >> > >> > * Default >> > * Age of Heroes >> > * Default + Khalifate >> > * Age of Heroes + Khalifate >> > >> > I fear that not many people will use the "+ Khalifate" eras until the >> release >> > is out and we get the complaints about them being unbalanced. At that >> time it >> > is too late though due to our "(mp) compatibility" policy for stable >> series. >> > Because of this I propose that we encourage the testing using two >> simple steps: >> > >> > 1) Naming changes. >> > 2) Have some tournament(s) shortly after a new release which is centered >> > around testing with/against the new faction. >> > >> > Re 1): >> > What do you think of the following names? >> > * Default >> > * Age of Heroes >> > * Classic >> > * Classic Heroes >> > >> > Yes, especially the last one might need some more work. The idea is to >> have >> > the era with the Khalifate preselected so that we might get some more >> testing. >> > Yes, this will also require some slight rewrite of the description but >> it >> > should not be rocket science, right? >> > >> > >> > Re 2): >> > Is anyone around who could get some small "feedback tournaments" >> started? I >> > know that parts of our MP community already did lots of work on >> balancing the >> > Khalifate, but some more can not hurt, right? >> > >> > >> > Please comment on this mail. If I receive no (negative) comment at all >> I will >> > just go ahead and change the names for the next development release >> which is >> > planned for "very soon". >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Nils Kneuper aka Ivanovic >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) >> > >> > iEYEARECAAYFAlLvzb0ACgkQfFda9thizwUYDQCePn4uwQKzB+bvjiAv4OL00p6T >> > JIAAnjNoBuePV/Hms0stgNkfS4/14YWL >> > =XH9v >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wesnoth-dev mailing list >> > Wesnoth-dev@gna.org >> > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wesnoth-dev mailing list >> Wesnoth-dev@gna.org >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wesnoth-dev mailing list > Wesnoth-dev@gna.org > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wesnoth-dev mailing list > Wesnoth-dev@gna.org > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev > >
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