Dear All, I think we need "dictators at times" to make some of these Crucial decisions, lest we mark time!!
Good luck. Gilbert 2009/5/5 Jimmy Adriko <jadr...@newvision.co.ug> > Dear All, > > > > Lets get a leaf from Robert Ocatre or Joel Arumadri once again about Peri > Urban plantations ( the word Peri I believe refers to surrounding not in > town). What was the purpose of establishing them? What type of trees are > meant to be planted in these areas? Is there minimum distance required from > the town centre? > > > > Is an expert in trees and having worked with National Forest Authority can > Joel Arumadri guide us on the pros and cons of eucalyptus trees in Barifa? > If the trees were fruit trees say Mangoes, Oroanges, Avocados etc would we > still get the same ecological importance apart from the fire wood from the > Eucalyptus? > > > > Then to town planers and engineers what are the minimum required facility a > town or a municipality is supposed to have in a modern society? Can we start > a ‘new’ municipality call it Onduparaka without creating land conflicts in > the area? I remember expansion of Arua Municipality was vehemently resisted. > > > > > If NEMA and NFA cleared the relocation of Barifa, I still think with lack > of financial capacity of the region and the country it is better to have a > sample of well organized unit of Arua in the few acres occupied by the > firewood trees. > > > > If every family of West Nile created space of at least 10 square metres of > land and get time to plant trees (fruits or firewood) we shall have more > impact on society than what Barifa is having now. > > > > OVER TO YOU!!!!!!! > > > > Jimmy > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] *On > Behalf Of *robert obetia > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:53 PM > *To:* F. Xavier Drani; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > *Subject:* [!! SPAM] RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE > > > > Xavi and RAnguzu, > > The 2 sides of the coin from Xavier and Anguzu. In probability we used to > have the head (H) or the tail (T) when it is tossed. Technically no body > talks about the side elevation (E) thin though may be useful to note. Xavia > and RAnguzu, that (elevation) is the view i am looking for. The "Elevation", > in a graphic perspective where i can imagine how Barifa will look or is > supposed to look when both your development concern ( (H)ead of coin) and > another's environmental concern ((T)ail of the coin) are merged. The monitor > article mentioned business centre, malls etc but that didn't come out > complete coz it looked like wish list. This side (E of the coin) does not > just seperate the H and T but actually joins them together and that is the > most important thing (Join them). And by the way i am more interested in not > how the coin will be tossed but can it also fall my way - or just a bit of > it? Hahaa just a little cut for "Mvara Corner something" so as to maintain > the heritage of names that were stars of this corner like Findru, Atandu, > Kodra, Adua, etc if we can not maintain most of the trees Barifa. > > Best regards and take care, > > RObetia > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:38:35 +0000 > From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE > To: westnilenet@kym.net > > Hello, > > > > I appreciate your concern on environmental conservation. > > Arua District has got qualified environmentalists and I am quite certain > that, an environmental impact assessment for this project was done.( I beg > to be corrected) > > > > This Barifa issue has been on going for quite some time now. Both NFA and > NEMA are stakeholders, and ought to be knowing what is happening. > > > > I think it is only fair to have some basic details about such subjects > before drawing conclusions or attacking people. > > You may probably be right; but do you have any evidence to prove that an > alternative has never been sought to relocate barifa or conserve our > environment? > > > > The *Daily Monitor *story as I read, made no mention on complaints > regarding environmental concerns and improper procedure. But complaints from > some people(residents) who felt left out in the process of degazetting. > > > > Better still, you want to conserve environment for a good cause.(helping > mankind). Our people destroy forests mainly for wood fuel. > > What alternative source of fuel/energy have you provided for the many poor > people in villages? > > > > What should our people who traditionally know wood fuel as the only source > of energy say for cooking and curing tobacco use for the meantime as fuel > with view of preserving the environment. > > > > Am not against any thing but; please, provide alternatives as is the case > in other countries. > > The law then can take its course. > > What people need are not good suggestions that are beyond their reach > but realistic alternatives. > > > > I hope I've not generated another debate. > > > > Cheers > > > > Xavier > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 4/5/09, ranguzu <rang...@naro.go.ug>* wrote: > > > From: ranguzu <rang...@naro.go.ug> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 9, Issue 6 > To: westnilenet@kym.net > Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 12:32 PM > > Dear all > > I am extremely perturbed by the Monitor story on the degazetting of barifa > forest reserve for construction. I just wonder whether or not there are > enviromentalists among the Municipal Council Officials in Arua District. > Development is not only about construction of buildings. It also takes into > > account enviornmental concerns. > > The district and municipal leadership are well aware that Arua district is > slowly turning into a desert, thanks to the reckless behaviour of the > population in destroying trees, and lack of guidance and enforncement of > the > law by the authorities. Arua district is one of drought prone areas, which > needs protection - in terms of natural resource management and > conservation. > > I think the President was right to stop the degazetting the forest. > > > Regards > > > Robert Anguzu > > On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:00:04 +0300 (EAT), westnilenet-request wrote > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > > > westnilenet@kym.net<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-ow...@kym.net> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Barifa Forest Reserve in the News & A New Website for West > > Nile Discussion Forum > > (ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk> > ) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:13:18 +0000 (GMT) > > From: > > ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk> > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Barifa Forest Reserve in the News & A New > > Website for West Nile Discussion Forum > > To: > > westnilenet@kym.net<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net> > > Message-ID: > > <596526.1486...@web27206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com<http://uk.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=596526.1486...@web27206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Here is an interesting development on Barifa Forest Reserve (see the > > link below), bin it if you have already seen it. > > http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/regional- > special/President_saves_Arua_s_Barifa_Forest_Reserve_84034.shtml > > > > > > Has any one come up with a definitive solution to the way > > discussions are structured on this forum? The last time I checked > > (30 April 2009), Mr Vasco Oguzu was trying to resolve an apparent > > misunderstanding that arose from some members' discontent with the > > kind of information received in their mail box. Subsequently, I > > would like to support the view that we have our own website (I can > > not recall who suggested this recently, but credit to you > > nonetheless). It is indeed possible to get a website with a domain > > name for which we can pay, it is cheap and quite affordable. > > Alternatively, we can use one of the free web forums (such as > > this one: http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/forum1.php , for which > > the main page is: http://www.myfreeforum.org) Once we have the > > website, we can structure our discussions broadly on themes such as > > Education, Health/healthcare, > > entrepreneurship/trade/business/commerce, community develoment, > > environment, politics etc, including a section on 'socials or fun' > > and 'others'. The category on 'others' is an important one, even in > > scientific research, where ideas that may be interesting (for the > > researcher) but cannot be accommodated under the existing > > theoretical/conceptual framework are deposited, but may be explored > > further in the future (if necessary). Those interested in > > contributing ideas can post them directly under the relevant themes. > > The main moderator (I think Kiggs as it stands now, but I suggest we > > nominate a few other knowledgeable members to help him), will have > > the authority to remove inapproapriate posts (and transfer to the > > relevant sections). Moderator(s) can also move to the front/top page, > > any topics that are very important and deserve more attention from > > us. They may also post obituaries or breaking news (if necessary). > > With comments or rejoinders, we can adopt the Daiy Monitor or Andrew > > Mwenda's independent Magazine style where there is a section for > > comments (with a few basic rules) after each original contribution. > > This way, the apparent frustration with email clogging will be > > handled and there will be space for all to be accommodated. We can > > also act as 'police' to see to it that commentaries and rejoinders > > appear in the appropriate sections, by informing the moderator(s) if > > items appear to be 'misplaced'. We can then create a link to the > > archives of all that has been discussed on the forum to this date. > > This way, there will be no need to send emails around, unless if one > > is trying to share personal or private information with friends. All > > we need will be to log in to the website. I know someone (Ejiku > > Robert I think?) has already (jokingly??) dismissed the idea of > > logging into a (West Nile forum) website, but I am sure if one > > realistically wants to contribute to the cause of this forum, that > > should not be asking for too much. Should we agree on the idea of > > a fully fledged website, I will be happy to pay for the domain name > > in the first two years, and I am sure if it works to our advantage, > > and in the interest of keeping this very important forum open, we > > can together, work out how to maintain it into the foreseable > > future. In the meantime, If some durable solution has been found > > to this problem, please ignore my suggestions. 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