Dear Vasco, Thank you very much for your candid submissions. I share your concerns. Indeed we need to be thorough in what ever we are doing but not too thorough not to do anything at the end. If my personal feelings are any thing to go by, one of the things that is begining to make me lose interest in the forum is the round-about way of addressing issues, moving in circles, spending a lot of time getting confused, being busy doing nothing! I thought i was trying to move the process forward and not backwards when i suggested that the new names suggested be included on the list for us to democratically take a decision on what is most agreable to the majority. In fact i very much apreciate some of the names just being proposed and i encourage those people to consider them serious. But since i had on my side passed that stage i can not go back. I agree that people on ground should should be active in participating in these processes but that should not make us abdicate our responsibility to express our opinions and give our views which may be taken or not, but we in diaspora will have done our part to articulate our views. I have participated in quite afew of these voluntary organisations in Arua and some small idea about what it takes to take off. However, if we want to stop the process of getting the name issue sorted out and go back to decide where we started. I wish us well. Thank you. Sam Andema
--- On Thu, 28/5/09, Vasco Oguzua <ogu...@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Vasco Oguzua <ogu...@hotmail.com> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: The Proposed Name To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Thursday, 28 May, 2009, 7:57 PM #yiv806591950 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv806591950 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Thank you Robert, for your thoughtful observation and suggestions. I would concur with you and the comments you have made. The suggestions you have made are also in my view very thoughtful and logical. As for Sam, I think Robert is not late with the name suggestions, because as Robert clearly stated, we are trying to have a name for something which we have not clearly defined. So we have not exhausted the discussion yet and Robert is just in time with his suggestions and infact has given us another view of the discussion. Infact there has never been a serious discussion on those issue for us to already go to vote names. Let us not run before we can walk. Having observed what is happening on the forum for a few months, I have observed that there is a tendency for making rush decisions without carefully and seriously evaluating all of the available options and suggestions. First what are we trying to form is not clearly defined. Secondly, the idea of deciding a name in my view should be something the brothers and sisters on the ground should have a serious discussion about in a proper meeting in Arua or in Kampala. I am sure if the Ombaci OB's , Mvara OB's , Koboko OBs or Moyo OB's and Makerere Students can meet, I think the people on the ground can organize to have such a meeting in which these kinds of issues can be discussed thoroughly because they constitute a large number of the membership on the forum I have also observed that the participation of people in the forum is not as good as it was in March or February, which makes me think there is some issue somewhere which is making people withdraw. I would like to think that those of us who are in the diaspora can only contribute in terms of suggestion and sharing of ideas while serious decision making on things like this should be left to the people at home on the ground. So I think the suggestions Robert has made are the correct line of thinking which needs to be considered very seriously. We need to be systematic and through rather than being reactive without giving a careful thought into the kind of things we are trying to do. The names like are simple for the ordinary people to relate to rather than the verbose intellectual names which have been suggested. "Nile Development Initiative(NDI)" "Nile Community Development (NCD)" "Centre for Community Empowerment(CCE)" "Nile Community Empowerment Initiative (NCEI)" I had specifically suggested West Nile Development Commission because the main purpose of the organization would have been to plan and implement development issues and/or address development problems in West Nile, and Commissions necessarily do not need to be formed by governments alone. Commissions can be formed by interest groups for the purposes of addressing issues or problems the interest groups identify. I think Robert's suggestions need to be given the attention it deserves because it makes better sense and i think it is so far the best suggestion on the forum for this particular issue at hand. If the intent of the discussions we are having on the forum is to act as a catalyst for the development of West Nile, then "Nile Development Initiative" would be a nifty name for an NGO. Thanks and well done Robert for your contribution and putting light into this discussion. Vasco Oguzua Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________
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