Should I say this forum comprises of two kinds of people; people who make things happen and people who talk about things that happen. As believer in people who make things happen, I always try to fail so as to discover things that don’t work instead of talking, talking, and talking. But today, after careful consideration of our intentions, taking note of various comments made by members, my views have varried. Whereas the idea forming a new organization would be good, it’s not ideal for our case. Already we have so many organizations like WENIRUDA, CEFORD, MAYANK, ARUPIDE, WENIPs, FAME Worldwide, Chamber of Commerce, WENGLOW, NACLA to mention a few, all trying to address address the same problems we are looking at solving. I stand to be corrected if at all we have any intention to compete with these organizations! Already these groups are doing what we’ve always thought about except they lack capacity to implement programs as expected. To me, we would rather tap into our immense human capital resources to supplement what these organizations already have instead of duplicating. We would also save ourselves from the hussle of starting new organisation. As co-founder of West Nile Rural Development, I know what it takes to establish such organizations. Can you imagine from when WENIRUDA started in 2005 I was alone. In 2006, we became two until early 2007 on referral of Vasco Oguzua; we were joined by Abiria Sunday and others in promoting WENIRUDA. My dull memories are still full of the personal commitments, perseverance, stressful and tiresome movements I endured to achieve a WIN for West Nile . May know how many people are willing to make such sacrifices? Sometimes its easier said than done. Given our globally spread membership and levels of engagement, I really foresee implementation bottleneck. I wonder what kind of modalities this proposed organization will put in place to operate and to adequately execute her tasks. Perhaps someone needs to educate me on this before I cast my precious vote. I also need to understand how this organization will work with others to ensure success for West Nile . An absolute fact is that these organisations are all looking to us for support. I'm worried, in the process of gaining everything, we could miss out on bones like a dog that wanted to gain everything at the various parties. I'm not a pessimist. As usual my hope is that having come from West Nile, lived in West Nile, and experienced the magnitude of the problems of the region we should be able to improvise workable choice of solutions. This reality should also sharpen our zeal to stick but not to quit. Perhaps to clear worries on less participation, it could be the high cost of Internet access in Uganda more so in Arua where people are now paying 80 shs per minute.This could have forced people to change their priorities. But all the same, sometimes it's not only how much people say but what, when, and why they say that shapes the world. Denis Lee Oguzu
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, JOHNSON OMBIGA <omb...@rogers.com> wrote: From: JOHNSON OMBIGA <omb...@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: The Proposed Name To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <westnilenet@kym.net> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:40 AM Ladies and Gentlemen, It seems the discussion on the name we want to call ourselves as an NGO has just started. If this is the majority feeling, why not go on and exhaust all the avenues we had left out and continue the debate, In my personal opinion, West Nilers have always collaborated well on group formulation. If the majority are not at ease with: " West Nile Forum for Sustainable Development", let us discuss that point specifically and suggest names that are easy to remember. It is not going to take us weeks as we did earlier. I agree that in addition to the names suggested by Vasco, add: "West Nile Development Agency (WNDA)" with offices in every district. The headquarters being at Arua where the idea originated in the first place. Modesto Ombiga --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Vasco Oguzua <ogu...@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Vasco Oguzua <ogu...@hotmail.com> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: The Proposed Name To: westnilenet@kym.net Received: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:57 PM #yiv193786493 #yiv397534738 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv193786493 #yiv397534738 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Thank you Robert, for your thoughtful observation and suggestions. I would concur with you and the comments you have made. The suggestions you have made are also in my view very thoughtful and logical. As for Sam, I think Robert is not late with the name suggestions, because as Robert clearly stated, we are trying to have a name for something which we have not clearly defined. So we have not exhausted the discussion yet and Robert is just in time with his suggestions and infact has given us another view of the discussion. Infact there has never been a serious discussion on those issue for us to already go to vote names. Let us not run before we can walk. Having observed what is happening on the forum for a few months, I have observed that there is a tendency for making rush decisions without carefully and seriously evaluating all of the available options and suggestions. First what are we trying to form is not clearly defined. Secondly, the idea of deciding a name in my view should be something the brothers and sisters on the ground should have a serious discussion about in a proper meeting in Arua or in Kampala. I am sure if the Ombaci OB's , Mvara OB's , Koboko OBs or Moyo OB's and Makerere Students can meet, I think the people on the ground can organize to have such a meeting in which these kinds of issues can be discussed thoroughly because they constitute a large number of the membership on the forum I have also observed that the participation of people in the forum is not as good as it was in March or February, which makes me think there is some issue somewhere which is making people withdraw. I would like to think that those of us who are in the diaspora can only contribute in terms of suggestion and sharing of ideas while serious decision making on things like this should be left to the people at home on the ground. So I think the suggestions Robert has made are the correct line of thinking which needs to be considered very seriously. We need to be systematic and through rather than being reactive without giving a careful thought into the kind of things we are trying to do. The names like are simple for the ordinary people to relate to rather than the verbose intellectual names which have been suggested. "Nile Development Initiative(NDI)" "Nile Community Development (NCD)" "Centre for Community Empowerment(CCE)" "Nile Community Empowerment Initiative (NCEI)" I had specifically suggested West Nile Development Commission because the main purpose of the organization would have been to plan and implement development issues and/or address development problems in West Nile, and Commissions necessarily do not need to be formed by governments alone. Commissions can be formed by interest groups for the purposes of addressing issues or problems the interest groups identify. I think Robert's suggestions need to be given the attention it deserves because it makes better sense and i think it is so far the best suggestion on the forum for this particular issue at hand. If the intent of the discussions we are having on the forum is to act as a catalyst for the development of West Nile, then "Nile Development Initiative" would be a nifty name for an NGO. Thanks and well done Robert for your contribution and putting light into this discussion. Vasco Oguzua Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). 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