I have read and reached a conclusion that we need to share the spirit of dialoguing for a region, not for our individual interests and small constituencies. Let’s be debaters who don’t just talk for the sake of proving to others that we are talking but rather communicate meaning that builds us as a region. This may be from an individual perspective however the focus and impact should bear on the regional issues. Indeed I like what Con. Caleb said, lets be Learners and receive feedback with both hands. Let’s move beyond and above personal feelings that are so forceful and weakening the profound power we seem to share that should propel us beyond looking outside to looking from within for solutions and responses to our challenges as a region by being the change we would want to see. Luther Junior once remarked that the greatest question to ask in life is not what you are doing for yourself but rather how much are you doing for others. I think we in our individual positions are clothed within the Name West Nile such that even when there are differences we need to appreciate how necessary they are to creating balance over issues. Let’s move on! Moses
________________________________ From: Sunday Akile <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 6:27:11 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I highly concur with the postings of Benard and Obaa. By the way did you read my posting between the lines or between the legs (excuse my language)! Well.....be that as it may, I will never reply you in kind but only encourage you to never abandon the debate as you would like to. I strongly identified with your views and others alike of the state of affairs in our region. If there was anything i personaly stood for and still i am for adverse views such as yours being entertained on this forum. I stood by one called Majid Alemi (who is now history on this forum) when there were sugestions that he should be switched off for his kind of mind. I even warned lee when he began this debate whereas i identified with it. Please don't kill the goose that lays a golden egg. Please reflect once again on my posting that has provocked the reaction from you and read it. You will find that i had another mirror of looking at our inherent fear from the perspective of "a fight in the market by a vendor of eggs".That was the kind i was discouraging us from. I meant we should fight for our rights and get what we want. We should never harbour the fear of a vendor of eggs in the market that once he begins a fight he will loose his eggs thus he should not fight to defend his rights. Further still, my posting with much respect served a reminder to our committee pursuing the establishment of a University at our doorstep. That for them to bargain successfully from the government in place, fear should be cast aside for them to get the best. Now where was my mind skewed because of this? In you previous posting didn't you talk about fear being our main problem? Where is our disagreement? Please normalise normaly and continue with this debate. I share the pain and sentiments that you hold for the sake of our cause as a region. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks ________________________________ From: christine munduru <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:09 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine ________________________________ From: Sunday Akile <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever........ The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i need it and i know many others out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put it to good use. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks (Practicing Advocate with M/s Akile, Olok & Advocates Kampala) ________________________________ From: christine munduru <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas. I also agree that our people are generally lazy. Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government, we can do everything. We have a part to play and government has a part to play and both parties must come to a table for this to happen. I think this is what we are saying here. Construction and equipment of health centers is done by governement for example, unless it is private and but even then it is the government to give the permission for it to happen. We shall beat about the bush but we shall not run away from the truth. ________________________________ From: francis azabo <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:04:42 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Nice one Emma, I believe everything has a starting point. Even the best laid strategies can fail if implementation is bad. I believe when WNF kick starts, there will be lots of challenges and learning points and its not short term anyway. However your observations and comparisons can't be ignored. The concept group should alert us on whats happening so far. ________________________________ From: Longo Emmanuel <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 13:57:43 Subject: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Dear all, I am writing because I feel i have to write:Why WNF cannot steer into the development of West Nile Region. In part A, I will limit my self to example of Bushenyi( whose politics i have ardently been following for the last 15 years!) and will share it for the purposes of our reflection. i) academic excellence: In this years' PLE results, Arua district had 87 first graders while Bushenyi 573.Condering it is now being split into 5 districts, it means each sub county had 114 first graders-far better than Arua District!...(somebody can crosscheck my statistics and also update us on O' and A'level as well!); ii) As an Engineer in Mbale in 2002 then, I happenned to have been on the Bushenyi District Local Government assesment team(peer review). On going through the LCV council minutes, we found out that 98% of the agenda was on development issues(driect poverty alleviation!). The team noted that most of the districts in Uganda then were bickering alot over petty issues and to date some still are e.g the Maracha-Terego circus. iii) In 2002, the dialy economy of Bushenyi District was about 2.3 billion shillings per day ( perhaps a WNF member can crosscheck the current status in relation to Arua District and all W/Nile districts and file us in!).The biggest source of revenue are matoke and milk; iv) The Bushenyi District Local Government and District Dairy Corperative union actually bougth Uganda Dairy Corperation before sameer group( and there is actually a partnership between them-I think??) v) Almost all cattle keeping families have crossed(improved) breeds of goats,cowsand therefore have daily income for extra value addition! vi) Ask Bushenyian( and some of us), their development has had nothing to do with MUSEVENI being in power( For Mbarara yes...). They only thank him for providing access to markets..that is all! Way back in 1920's-50's that has been the status quo through their developmental chief; vii) Bushenyians are shrewd and are hard working(more than Bakiga women!). During Obote II Government,five(5) cabinet Ministers came from there(including the speaker of Parliament) and 5 Ambassadors! In conclusion, it is ONLY when we re-align ourselves with Government/Donor priorties and network at community level, that we could make some in roads. Perhaps our focus should be on seeking to strengthen such systems or even put parrallel in place-BUT with clearly spelt out issues,programmes and achievable targets. We could then seek to utilize our many PhD holders from the region as consultants in our local issues. I am convinced the strategy and focus of WNF needs re-defining, even though i have never seen a copy of it. Management of resources Best Emmanuel Longo _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________
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