So y don't u just go out for coffee? From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Adrapi Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:39 AM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident
Christine! Whatever anger you have i don`t think its in order to call someone "petty" on this forum and no body is a "saint" to claim to always be perfect on this forum. --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Christine Munduru <cmund...@gmail.com<mailto:cmund...@gmail.com>> wrote: From: Christine Munduru <cmund...@gmail.com<mailto:cmund...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <westnilenet@kym.net<mailto:westnilenet@kym.net>> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:23 PM Dear Patrice, Thanks for pointing this out and you are absolutely correct. Some people have nothing to say in many debates in this forum but they want to be noticed, so when somebody puts a comma in a wrong place, they start talking about that comma in a wrong place instead of debating the real issue. I have learnt to ignore such petty people on this forum. Christine On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:03 AM, patrice mawa <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be pma...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pma...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Dear Mr Akile, Sorry I haven't got time to read your Obama's speech but I think this is obviously not engaging in blame games but bringing out the facts as they stand. Even if it was a police officer from Koboko, why would it be a crime to say so? Let's call a spade a spade. Patrice ________________________________ From: Sunday Akile <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be akile...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=akile...@yahoo.com>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net>> Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 1:33:28 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident Dearest Members, As it has always been the case with me on this forum i read the correspondences from the back seat but this incident of Entebbe nearly provoked me to say something which i even didn't and became hesitant settled to read and assess what was thrown over and about. But that all said and arrangements for settlemnt of the victims underway, i find we should try to get a healing from the same and perhaps learn lessons from what has happened. Please permit me to refer all of you who have deliberated vehemently over this issue in the course of the week to President Obama's memorial speech at Tucson Arizona last night. In his words' at a time when our discourse becomes polarised we intend to lay blame on any one". The scripture tells us that we live in a world of evil and terrible things that happen defy human understanding such as this at Entebbe. Non of us can know with certainity what might have stopped these shots from being fired and with this lets not engage in blame games such as "one of the police is one of our own from MOYO" or Kayihura is bad............ All these add up to polarising our society. Thank you. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks ________________________________ From: Vasco Oguzua <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be vogu...@gmail.com<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vogu...@gmail.com>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net>> Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 7:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] latest information from Entebbe Christine, Thank you again for this update of events concerning the West Niler's killed by some police robbers. I still applaud you and the group for the leadership, resiliency and tenacity in dealing with this tragic issue. While I do applaud the Inspector General of Police for the quick response he has provided to calm the situation, I do not think the pain inflicted on the families of the deceased and the whole of West Nile community will go away. Much as the Police have taken the funeral expenses of the deceased, I believe they have not done us any favour by their offer. They are covering their back for the blatant wrongs they have done to the citizens they are supposed to protect. Personally I do not see any reason and need for the President to be the one to discuss or get involved in the issues of compensation of the families of the affected victims. This clearly illustrates Institutional breakdown in Uganda. If the President has to be the one who determines the compensation of the victims, then I think the people have a rite to ask the president to explain why his Policemen have targeted the people of West Nile. The Police brutality must then equally be associated with the government brutality on the people of West Nile as the Police are agents of the government. The sons of West Nile with legal expertise should please help the team that will be responsible for the compensation and guide them so that they should get as mush as possible out of this tragedy. They should also help in following this case, because the Police could easily hood wink us by saying those arrested are still in Luzira , yet they are soon released and they same people could come back and even do more damage to the others still alive in revenge. I would suggest that among issues that could be discussed are the children and widows of the people who died. The children should be provided free education till University level in very good schools, not those UPE and USE schools, and the widows be provided a decent living allowance till their death, for it is the government agents that destroyed the lives of the people who were responsible for providing for those children and widows. As Fr. Ruffino suggested, the people should have a peaceful demonstration to bring to the attention of the Public about this Police Brutality, especially when some of the people involved were not even government agents. Who knows that might be something the Police have planned as a way to substitute their meagre government pay. Otherwise why would a professional and well facilitated Police personnel get involved in such criminal act? This bad or tragic incidence could also be turned as an opportunity to educate our people about their human rights as citizens of Uganda under the laws of Uganda. It could be used to expose some of the sinister things the government and its agents have done to our people in general and the issues of the Barifa Land would easily come handy to illustrate some of the wrongs done by government agents against the people of West Nile. Especially, I would think that a peaceful demonstration in Arua, Yumbe and Rhino Camp would be in order. This issue needs to be discussed and disseminated in the air waves in Arua. If possible the IGP could be invited in some of the Radio stations to clearly explain to the people of West Nile what happened and how the people can protect themselves in future if the police go and harass citizens. I believe such issues should make us think deeper of how we can plan ahead to deter such possible future events rather than only deal with solutions to current events. Vasco On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Christine Munduru <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be cmund...@gmail.com<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cmund...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear all, I wish thank all of you for the solidarity you have shown and also thank all those in Entebbe for the unity and support. members wanted to know if the families will be compensated and I wish to give you more information about the discussions. First of all kaihura did a very commendable job. He handled the volatile situation very professionally otherwise there was going to be caos especially when the culprits were brought to mourners.He blasted the DPC and commanders for allowing such things to happen and he was forced to slap one of them when one of those tortured recently with panga cuts on his head came to testify. he came well packed with creats of sodas, and other food items for the mourners in Entebbe. It is very sad to note that one of the arrested policemen was our own called Waiga from Moyo. The newspapers have not reported the issue reflecting the gravity but we know which season we are in, reporting exactly what happened could cause a number of things. The latest information was that the police had beaten, tortured and thrown into water some of the members who had gone to do fishing in the island and taken away their boat. These guys called for rescue from their colleagues who immediately jumped into the boat to go and help. it was this group going for rescue whom the police opened fire upon at midday not at night as was reported in the papers, and they were 14 in this boat. Many of them were beaten and others had minor bullet wounds. The men were all involved, others were badly injured, beaten and those who could run went hiding so women around had to take charge of helping those badly injured plus reporting the issue to police. We have been informed that those admitted have high chances of survival but one of them could end up palalysed for life and the one who came to report and was knocked by a car had a broken femur and damaged ribs which the Entebbe health worker's said if not well managed could lead to death and they referred him to Mulago hospital. The agreement with Kaihura was that police will take all funeral expenses but compensation will be done by the president himself. The president was already aware and will be waiting for feedback from IGP. Yesterday Kaihura went to Arua and he intended to personally visit the families. When he comes back, appointment will be made with him to send a team to do negotiations on the compensation for the families and also discuss the future of these fishemen based on the government regulations of fishing in the lake. We have one contact person who will make the appointment and we shall select a team to go and meet the IGP. The IGP also ordered investing into all the cases which have been mishandled by the police in this same place and we hope justice will prevale at the end.The bodies left for Arua yesterday though the police delayed with the trucks, they finally left and we hope that they arrived safely. Memebers on this forum can give ideas to shape discussions for those who will go for the negotiations I will share with the team before they go for the meeting. My condelences for those we have lost in Moyo, may their soul rest in peace. Christine -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc559.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner<http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.ug/email/Email-disclaimer.aspx -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
_______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________