HahaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!
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Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [WestNileNet] {Disarmed} Re: Obama's Speech good 4
Entebbe Incident
To: westnilenet@kym.net
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 4:18 AM
So y don’t u just go out for coffee?
From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On
Behalf Of Joseph Adrapi
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:39 AM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident
Christine!
Whatever anger you have i don`t think its in order to call someone "petty" on
this forum and no body is a "saint" to claim to always be perfect on this forum.
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Christine Munduru <cmund...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Christine Munduru <cmund...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <westnilenet@kym.net>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:23 PM
Dear Patrice,
Thanks for pointing this out and you are absolutely correct. Some people have
nothing to say in many debates in this forum but they want to be noticed, so
when somebody puts a comma in a wrong place, they start talking about that
comma in a wrong place instead of debating the real issue. I have learnt to
ignore such petty people on this forum.
Christine
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Dear Mr Akile,
Sorry I haven't got time to read your Obama's speech but I think this is
obviously not engaging in blame games but bringing out the facts as they stand.
Even if it was a police officer from Koboko, why would it be a crime to say so?
Let's call a spade a spade.
Patrice
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Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 1:33:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Obama's Speech good 4 Entebbe Incident
Dearest Members,
As it has always been the case with me on this forum i read the correspondences
from the back seat but this incident of Entebbe nearly provoked me to say
something which i even didn't and became hesitant settled to read and assess
what was thrown over and about. But that all said and arrangements for
settlemnt of the victims underway, i find we should try to get a healing from
the same and perhaps learn lessons from what has happened.
Please permit me to refer all of you who have deliberated vehemently over this
issue in the course of the week to President Obama's memorial speech at Tucson
Arizona last night.
In his words' at a time when our discourse becomes polarised we intend to lay
blame on any one". The scripture tells us that we live in a world of evil and
terrible things that happen defy human understanding such as this at Entebbe.
Non of us can know with certainity what might have stopped these shots from
being fired and with this lets not engage in blame games such as "one of the
police is one of our own from MOYO" or Kayihura is bad............ All these
add up to polarising our society.
Thank you.
Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
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Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 7:04:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] latest information from Entebbe
Christine,
Thank you again for this update of events concerning the West Niler's killed by
some police robbers. I still applaud you and the group for the leadership,
resiliency and tenacity in dealing with this tragic issue. While I do applaud
the Inspector General of Police for the quick response he has provided to calm
the situation, I do not think the pain inflicted on the families of the
deceased and the whole of West Nile community will go away. Much as the Police
have taken the funeral expenses of the deceased, I believe they have not done
us any favour by their offer. They are covering their back for the blatant
wrongs they have done to the citizens they are supposed to protect.
Personally I do not see any reason and need for the President to be the one to
discuss or get involved in the issues of compensation of the families of the
affected victims. This clearly illustrates Institutional breakdown in
Uganda. If the President has to be the one who determines the compensation of
the victims, then I think the people have a rite to ask the president to
explain why his Policemen have targeted the people of West Nile. The Police
brutality must then equally be associated with the government brutality on the
people of West Nile as the Police are agents of the government. The sons of
West Nile with legal expertise should please help the team that will be
responsible for the compensation and guide them so that they should get as mush
as possible out of this tragedy. They should also help in following this case,
because the Police could easily hood wink us by saying those arrested are still
in Luzira , yet they are soon released and
they same people could come back and even do more damage to the others still
alive in revenge.
I would suggest that among issues that could be discussed are the children and
widows of the people who died. The children should be provided free education
till University level in very good schools, not those UPE and USE schools, and
the widows be provided a decent living allowance till their death, for it is
the government agents that destroyed the lives of the people who were
responsible for providing for those children and widows.
As Fr. Ruffino suggested, the people should have a peaceful demonstration to
bring to the attention of the Public about this Police Brutality, especially
when some of the people involved were not even government agents. Who knows
that might be something the Police have planned as a way to substitute their
meagre government pay. Otherwise why would a professional and well facilitated
Police personnel get involved in such criminal act?
This bad or tragic incidence could also be turned as an opportunity to educate
our people about their human rights as citizens of Uganda under the laws of
Uganda. It could be used to expose some of the sinister things the
government and its agents have done to our people in general and the issues of
the Barifa Land would easily come handy to illustrate some of the wrongs done
by government agents against the people of West Nile. Especially, I would think
that a peaceful demonstration in Arua, Yumbe and Rhino Camp would be in
order. This issue needs to be discussed and disseminated in the air waves in
Arua. If possible the IGP could be invited in some of the Radio stations to
clearly explain to the people of West Nile what happened and how the people can
protect themselves in future if the police go and harass citizens. I believe
such issues should make us think deeper of how we can plan ahead to deter such
possible future events rather than only
deal with solutions to current events.
Vasco
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Dear all,
I wish thank all of you for the solidarity you have shown and also thank all
those in Entebbe for the unity and support. members wanted to know if the
families will be compensated and I wish to give you more information about the
discussions.
First of all kaihura did a very commendable job. He handled the volatile
situation very professionally otherwise there was going to be caos especially
when the culprits were brought to mourners.He blasted the DPC and commanders
for allowing such things to happen and he was forced to slap one of them when
one of those tortured recently with panga cuts on his head came to testify. he
came well packed with creats of sodas, and other food items for the mourners in
Entebbe. It is very sad to note that one of the arrested policemen was our own
called Waiga from Moyo. The newspapers have not reported the issue reflecting
the gravity but we know which season we are in, reporting exactly what
happened could cause a number of things.
The latest information was that the police had beaten, tortured and thrown into
water some of the members who had gone to do fishing in the island and taken
away their boat. These guys called for rescue from their colleagues who
immediately jumped into the boat to go and help. it was this group going for
rescue whom the police opened fire upon at midday not at night as was reported
in the papers, and they were 14 in this boat. Many of them were beaten and
others had minor bullet wounds. The men were all involved, others were badly
injured, beaten and those who could run went hiding so women around had to take
charge of helping those badly injured plus reporting the issue to police. We
have been informed that those admitted have high chances of survival but one of
them could end up palalysed for life and the one who came to report and was
knocked by a car had a broken femur and damaged ribs which the Entebbe health
worker's said if not well managed
could lead to death and they referred him to Mulago hospital.
The agreement with Kaihura was that police will take all funeral expenses but
compensation will be done by the president himself. The president was already
aware and will be waiting for feedback from IGP. Yesterday Kaihura went to Arua
and he intended to personally visit the families. When he comes back,
appointment will be made with him to send a team to do negotiations on the
compensation for the families and also discuss the future of these fishemen
based on the government regulations of fishing in the lake. We have one contact
person who will make the appointment and we shall select a team to go and meet
the IGP. The IGP also ordered investing into all the cases which have been
mishandled by the police in this same place and we hope justice will prevale at
the end.The bodies left for Arua yesterday though the police delayed with the
trucks, they finally left and we hope that they arrived safely.
Memebers on this forum can give ideas to shape discussions for those who will
go for the negotiations I will share with the team before they go for the
meeting.
My condelences for those we have lost in Moyo, may their soul rest in peace.
Christine
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