Benard, Sunday and Ismail, Thanks for your comments and concern about my response to Pariyo's post about Energy Crisis in West Nile. Since English is not our native language, I believe many of you read and misinterpreted my response as something offensive to Pariyo, for which Sunday suggested I should apologize to Pariyo. I concur with all of you that the forum is a platform where we all learn from one another and share ideas. However, we may disagree on how it is done, to which we all may have different methods of transmitting or sharing knowledge. In this particular case Pariyo provided us with Tesla's theory as a solution to the Power Crisis in West Nile, which I think was a good idea because of his legitimate concern for the power problems we are facing in West Nile. I believe it is Ronald Batre who first commented on Pariyo's post by asking how Pariyo expected to apply that theory to address the power problems we are facing in West Nile. All I expressed was the same view Ronald Batre expressed. I believe if Pariyo was able to suggest Tesla's theory to solve the Power Crisis in West Nile, he must have made the suggestion with a deep understanding of what he is talking about or suggested. At least he should have educated us on how that idea would be applied to solve the problem. When we learn from each other, whoever comes with an idea to help a group of people in need of that idea should be able to explain to the people how the idea can be applied or used to help the situation.
I also think that if someone is able to suggest a solution to a problem, the person should be able to shade some light on the solution he or she has suggested for the problem so that we can all learn from the idea. Copying and Pasting some theory without explaining how the theory is applied, especially, in this particular case of Power Crisis in West Nile in my view defeats the idea of learning at this forum. If Pariyo wanted to suggest we in West Nile should think of Solar Power in addressing the power situation in West Nile, he should have been direct and say so, after all Radio Pacis is already using that technology in a small scale to run their business in Arua. I am sorry to say that I do not see any reason to apologize as suggested by Sunday for my comment, because I did not respond in a negative or harsh context as you have all perceived. Should we also ask Pariyo to apologize for suggesting a solution to West Nile's Power Crisis without giving us the detail or educating us on how the theory is applied to solve the power problem? I thank you all, hope you all have a wonderful weekend Vasco On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Bernard Vigga <bvi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > To the good people. > > I still believe where there is a platform for sharing information to the > public, the contextual relevance (feasibility and practicality) of such > information toward the topic being discussed is very paramount. And > moreover this is a key aspect of communication (public or otherwise). Also > responding to a non offensive comment/idea from people, with a rough tone > should not be encouraged in this forum. > > All the best > > BBV > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sunday Akile <akile...@yahoo.com> > *To:* banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk>; A Virtual Network for friends > of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2012 5:34 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] PROMOTING ARUA - ENERGY ISSUE > > Vasco, Batre, > > I also think that is too harsh a reply without any respect to a colleague > or member who is sharing what he has come across with us all. I find > Vasco's reply was un called for and it calls for an apology. AND to > Pariyo, please don't weaver no man is an island of ideas. > > Akile Sunday > > --- On *Tue, 3/20/12, banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk>* wrote: > > > From: banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] PROMOTING ARUA - ENERGY ISSUE > To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <westnilenet@kym.net>, > "Batre Ronald" <r_ba...@yahoo.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 10:50 PM > > > Vasco, Batre, > > What do you make yourself of Tesla's idea in respect to the power problem > we have. I think it was good of Pariyo to share this idea with us on this > forum. He might not have analyzed it to give its practical application to > our situation. But now that you know the first principles, can you go a > further step and try to give it a reality touch? > > More often than not, we lack information and when members share with us > what information they have come across as Pariyo did, it should be fair of > us to applaud the efforts, it whether or not we can use the information now > or in future. > > Ismail > ----------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vasco Oguzua <vogu...@gmail.com> > *To:* Batre Ronald <r_ba...@yahoo.com>; A Virtual Network for friends of > West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 22:44 > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] PROMOTING ARUA - ENERGY ISSUE > > Good question Ronald Batre, this is the typical issue with people copying > and pasting the work of other people they may have read without giving any > thought of how such idea(s) can be applied. For this particular example > Pario can not explain how Tesla's ideas could be applied to help the power > problems in West Nile. There are some who copy and past a million web pages > where they can not relate what the information in the web pages to the > discussion at hand or perhaps their original personal views, comments, > advise, etc. > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Batre Ronald <r_ba...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > So what does it mean for somebody in West Nile? Is there any practical > thing you can do to covince us apart from written theories? We are in power > crisis. > > Ronald Batre > Uganda Radio Network > West Nile > Mobile > +256-758745013 > +256-773071250 > email:r_ba...@yahoo.com/ > rba...@gmail.com > ------------------------------ > *From:* Pario Anguyo <pari...@hotmail.it> > *To:* westnilenet@kym.net > *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 2:28 PM > *Subject:* [WestNileNet] PROMOTING ARUA - ENERGY ISSUE > > > L <http://pernille.typepad.com/uganda/promoting_arua/>ETS PROMOTE ARUA - > WEST NILE OF ENERGY ISSUE THAN RELYING ON ENTEBBE - KAMPALA . > > > http://pernille.typepad.com/uganda/promoting_arua/ > Free Energy Receiver > THE LOST INVENTIONS OF NIKOLA TESLA > by George Trinkaus > [image: free energy]For starters, think of this as a solar-electric > panel. Tesla's invention is very different, but the closest thing to it in > conventional technology is in photo-voltaics. One radical difference is > that conventional solar-electric panels consist of a substrate coated with > crystalline silicon; the latest use amorphous silicon. Conventional solar > panels are expensive, and, whatever the coating, they are manufactured by > esoteric processes. > > But Tesla's "solar panel" is just a shiny metal plate with a transparent > coating of some insulating material which today could be a spray plastic. > Stick one of these antenna-like panels up in the air, the higher the > better, and wire it to one side of a capacitor, the other going to a good > earth ground. Now the energy from the sun is charging that capacitor. > > Connect across the capacitor some sort of switching device so that it can > be discharged at rhythmic intervals, and you have an electric output. > Tesla´s patent is telling us that it is that simple to get electric energy. > The bigger the area of the insulated plate, the more energy you get. But > this is more than a 'solar panel' because it does not necessarily need > sunshine to operate. It also produces power at night. > > Of course, this is impossible according to official science. For this > reason, you could not get a patent on such an invention today. Many an > inventor has learned this the hard way. Tesla had his problems with the > patent examiners, but today's free-energy inventor has it much tougher. At > the time of this writing, the U. S. Patent Office is headed by a Reagan > appointee who came to the office straight from a top executive position > with Phillips Petroleum. > > [image: circuit controller]Tesla's free-energy receiver was patented in > 1901 as An Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy. The patent > refers to "the Sun, as well as other sources of radiant energy, like cosmic > rays." That the device works at night is explained in terms of the > night-time availability of cosmic rays. Tesla also refers to the ground as > "a vast reservoir of negative electricity." > > Tesla was fascinated by radiant energy and its free-energy possibilities. > He called the Crooke's radiometer (a device which has vanes that spin in a > vacuum when exposed to radiant energy) "a beautiful invention." He believed > that it would become possible to harness energy directly by "connecting to > the very wheelwork of nature." His free-energy receiver is as close as he > ever came to such a device in his patented work. > > But, on his 76th birthday, at the ritual press conference, Tesla (who was > without the financial wherewithal to patent but went on inventing in his > head) announced a "cosmic-ray motor." When asked if it was more powerful > than the Crooke's radiometer, he answered, "thousands of times more > powerful." > How it works > From the electric Potential that exists between the elevated plate (plus) > and the ground (minus), energy builds in the capacitor, and, after "a > suitable time interval," the accumulated energy will "manifest itself in a > powerful discharge" which can do work. The capacitor, says Tesla, should be > "of considerable electrostatic capacity," and its dielectric made of "the > best quality mica,' for it has to withstand potentials that could rupture a > weaker dielectric. > > Tesla gives various options for the switching device. One is a rotary > switch that resembles a Tesla circuit controller. Another is an > electrostatic device consisting of two very light, membranous conductors > suspended in a vacuum. These sense the energy build-up in the capacitor, > one going positive, the other negative, and, at a certain charge level, are > attracted, touch, and thus fire the capacitor. Tesla also mentions another > switching device consisting of a minute air gap or weak dielectric film > which breaks down suddenly when a certain potential is reached. > > The above is about all the technical detail you get in the patent. > Although I've seen a few cursory references to Tesla's invention in my > sampling of the literature of free-energy, I am not aware of any attempts > to verify it experimentally. > Plauson's converterHow it works > [image: Plauson's Converter] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://pernille.typepad.com/uganda/promoting_arua/ > > > > Pario - Anguyo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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