At 19:07 -0500 11/12/07, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
Well, consensus is going to be hard to find, with the conflicts of interest at
play here.
Yes, I agree that consensus will be hard. I have
spent quite some effort so far and I see quite a
bit more to come. I don't think there is much
conflict of interest at play here (in the classic
sense), just conflict of perception and preferred
direction.
And all that we want is that Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora, being the
ideal balance between least-encumbered and technically sufficient options, be
mentioned in the document that will be read by millions -- even if it wasn't
a SHOULD but a MAY or an ITWOULDBENICE. They more than deserve it.
That is still a possibility.
So, here's a challenge. Does Apple really *only* want to be able to claim
SHOULD conformance?
No, we went with the consensus opinion at the
HTML meeting that MUST would be better, if it can
be achieved.
Reinstate the paragraph and put MAY instead of SHOULD,
then go crazy authoring H.264 content for the VIDEO tag. That resolution
lets you have SHOULD conformance. If you refuse, we know that it's a market
and monopoly thing. If you accept, we know you were being straightforward
all along.
Most of us are less than satisfied with SHOULD,
and MAY is in the opposite direction to that
desired.
El Mar 11 Dic 2007, Dave Singer escribió:
At 13:45 -0500 11/12/07, Fernando wrote:
>Please reconsider the decision to exclude the recommendation of the
Theora/OGG Vorbis codec in HTML 5 guidelines.
This entire discussion is founded on a major misapprehension: that
there has been a decision, and that decision was to exclude. This is
simply not true; there is no decision either to include or exclude.
There is a recognition that work is needed.
I and others have spent a great deal of time on this problem already,
working with a number of people, including the W3C staff. Many of us
-- maybe all of us -- agree we need to find a solution that enables
broad interoperability and is in accord with w3c and web practices.
We have not yet reached consensus on having found it. That's all.
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