Only when the license is compatible and doesn't introduce a framework stack. Wicket Stuff is not a playground. It is a place where new components can be created and maintained. If it is used as a playground, we should mark those projects as such: sandbox or something else.
Martijn On 10/15/05, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > adhoc is the whole idea of stuff > it is more or less a play ground and what is becoming stable and > useable for many people then it should be promoted (wicket-extentions) > > On 10/15/05, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At the very least, someone should review contrib, identify classes > > offering overlapping functionality (there were a few the last time I > > checked) and try standardizing some of this stuff. Right now it is > > somewhat confusing for new users to understand when to use what. > > > > Wicket-core is well designed and organized. Wicket-contrib is far more > > ad-hoc. > > > > Gili > > > > Nathan Hamblen wrote: > > > Then what was Jonathan Locke talking about in this post from August? > > > http://jroller.com/page/JonathanLocke/20050829 > > > > > > If he hadn't implied there that a hibernate dependency was possible in > > > extensions, I wouldn't have started this discussion. wicket-stuff works > > > as the laboratory it's intended to be, but it's not a good place to send > > > brand new wicket users. Look at this page, if it will even load: > > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wicket-stuff/#dirlist > > > (it's a jungle) > > > > > > I understand that review of the code in contrib.data would be required. > > > That's just what I'm asking for: review it, merge it with > > > contrib.database, do whatever you want, but recognize that this stuff is > > > at least as important as the AJAX integration that you've already put in > > > to 1.1 . Maybe it won't get you buzz, but it will help you keep > > > programmers. > > > > > > Nathan > > > > > > Martijn Dashorst wrote: > > > > > >> No, > > >> > > >> We won't put a hibernate or spring dependency into extensions. *Maybe* > > >> the things that are > > >> in wicket-contrib-data (note the absence of a specific product), but > > >> there definetely needs to > > >> be some reviewing of what is good and what is bad before we upgrade > > >> things into extensions. > > >> > > >> The dataview has been drawing some attention on the core development > > >> team, so that one is > > >> currently on our horizon. > > >> > > >> As for Hibernate/Spring/etc. There are a number of reasons why the > > >> won't be introduced into core. > > >> > > >> On of them is that they are/depend on libraries that are not > > >> compatible with the Apache licence. One of the reasons > > >> we created the wicket-stuff project is for that reason. In that > > >> project any open source licence goes, > > >> as long as it is stated clearly under which license the component > > >> (library) is released. > > >> > > >> In Wicket core, Apache 2, or compatible licensed code is the only > > >> license we permit. > > >> > > >> Martijn Dashorst > > >> > > >> > > >> On 10/13/05, *Nathan Hamblen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >> > > >> Fine. What about extensions? > > >> > > >> Phil Kulak wrote: > > >> > Oh, well, I agree that the hibernate stuff should not be in the > > >> core. > > >> > > > >> > On 10/13/05, Nathan Hamblen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >> >> One thing I mean by integration is a built-in loadable > > >> detachable model > > >> >> for Hibernate mapped objects, like what's in contrib.data and > > >> >> contrib.database. After that, you need an easy way for people to > > >> fill up > > >> >> list views with query results. If there weren't a use for base > > >> classes > > >> >> that help in these tasks, the several contributed ones would not > > >> exist. > > >> >> > > >> >> This isn't really a "tier" argument (thank God), it's about > > >> giving > > >> >> people a starting point and suggested structure for accessing a > > >> database > > >> >> in a Wicket application. Pretty basic stuff if you ask me, and I > > >> do not > > >> >> think that a pile of contributed packages and examples is much > > >> of a > > >> >> solution. > > >> >> > > >> >> Nathan > > >> >> > > >> >> Nick Heudecker wrote: > > >> >>> I have to agree with Igor here. I didn't have to do anything > > >> special > > >> >>> when I started using Wicket. The DAOs and Service tier that I > > >> had in > > >> >>> place worked fine. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> It could be argued that if you're integrating Hibernate at the > > >> Wicket > > >> >>> level, something is wrong in your design. However, I > > >> understand that > > >> >>> for simple apps, multiple tiers is overkill. Things like > > >> Spring's > > >> >>> OpenSessionInViewFilter still work, or you can roll your own > > >> filter and > > >> >>> have it set the session in the WebSession. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Perhaps I'm confused on what you mean by integration. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > >> >> Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > > >> discussions, > > >> >> and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > >> <http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> Wicket-user mailing list > > >> >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> <mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > >> > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > > >> discussions, > > >> > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > >> Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > > >> discussions, > > >> and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wicket-user mailing list > > >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> <mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > >> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > > > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wicket-user mailing list > > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > _______________________________________________ > > Wicket-user mailing list > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
